Lost 12/01/04

[Scribble]

Originally Posted by fett527
I wouldn't like to think the psychic was crooked. It would ruin the supernatural feel.

Here's a take I was thinking of...

What if the psychic WAS psychic. So he sees there is a problem with the baby. If she goes through with the adoption something HORRIBLE will happen... So he really does try to sop her from doing it. Since he can't he really DOES arrange this couple in LA to take the baby... All the while he thinks he's averting fate...

BUT

As we've learned from countless other movies (terminator) and stories (oedipus...) you can't cheat fate... What he really was doing was fate's bidding... IE the Adoption he saw in his reading was really the "others'" taking the baby on the island. Only he didn't understahd the reading well enough to realise what it was. He just assumed it as the adoption.

 

[Fast Learner]

Whereas my take is the opposite: he saw the plane wreck, and that she and the baby would survive it, and since he couldn't convince her to raise the baby, he invented the LA couple in order to get her on the flight, to help insure that there'd be no chance of adoptive parents.

 

[David Howery]

hmm.. what do you wanna bet that the island was the site of French biological engineering experiments, of which the French woman was one of the team? Maybe they released viruses or something that mutates fetal tissue... and Claire's baby will be affected already and will be born as some godlike being of awesome mental powers... which is why it is so necessary that she raises it to be a good person, cuz noone will love it like she will. The experiments were conducted on bears (which explains why they are on the island), and the boars were put there to feed them. The giant unseen monster is probably Alex (an experiment gone horribly awry), but he has incredible mental powers, which is why Locke doesn't remember anything about the encounter.
OK, none of this is probably right.. but if it turns out to be true, remember that you saw it here first...

 

[MEG Hal]

Whereas my take is the opposite: he saw the plane wreck, and that she and the baby would survive it, and since he couldn't convince her to raise the baby, he invented the LA couple in order to get her on the flight, to help insure that there'd be no chance of adoptive parents.

I agree with this.

 

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

which is why Locke doesn't remember anything about the encounter.

Who says Locke doesn't remember? I just think he's being mysterioso.

I'll have to go back and check the last episode, but I seem to recall Danielle saying Alex was born on the island. If that really was 16 years ago I think we'd have to rule out Ethan as Alex. However, Danielle talked about "others" on the island (note that this was how Sayid phrased it to Jack too), and that fits in nicely with the "Other Man" anagram.

 

[Chun-tzu]

Yeah, Locke remembers the encounter, but has not mentioned it to others for reasons of his own. He talked about it briefly with Jack, telling Jack that the others wouldn't understand.

The idea of the French experimenting on bears has some merit, but I'm thinking now that the experiments involve hallucinogens of some kind. Jack seeing his father, and Claire thinking that she was attacked by someone... we're questioning a lot of what's real and what's not. We're still not entirely sure whether there's a real attacker or not, however, but for those of you who think the baby's special, chew on this: maybe it was the baby that attacked Claire, from the inside. Not physically, but psychically.

 

[Fast Learner]

I'll have to go back and check the last episode, but I seem to recall Danielle saying Alex was born on the island. If that really was 16 years ago I think we'd have to rule out Ethan as Alex. However, Danielle talked about "others" on the island (note that this was how Sayid phrased it to Jack too), and that fits in nicely with the "Other Man" anagram.

I keep hearing this "16 year" thing, but we don't have any reason to believe that Danielle has only been on the island for 16 years. Yes, she recorded the distress call 16 years ago, but hell, they could have been on the island for 20 years before that. I don't think it's a given that they started that particular pre-recorded distress call the minute they hit shore.

 

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

I keep hearing this "16 year" thing, but we don't have any reason to believe that Danielle has only been on the island for 16 years. Yes, she recorded the distress call 16 years ago, but hell, they could have been on the island for 20 years before that. I don't think it's a given that they started that particular pre-recorded distress call the minute they hit shore.

I'm not a gun expert, but those rifles she was packing looked pretty new-ish.

I went back and watched most of the Sayid episode and she doesn't say Alex was born on the island. Hell, she doesn't even say Alex is human. But I gotta think if Alex is her son, she wouldn't be taking some kid on what looks like some kind of dangerous military research project. I find it easier to believe that they were there for what may have been a few years and she had a child with her late husband after being marooned there.

Time will tell.

 

[Mad Hatter]

Who says that Alex isn't one of many experiments? She never says that she had a child. SHe just says "my son". Currently the majority of posters are assuming two things: 1) She has a son and 2) she and her team might have been experimenting on "something(s)". What would be the ultimate military weapon? Maybe someone or something that can show or give you what you want, i.e. Jack seeing his dad or that black woman seeing her husband? Maybe a far stronger and smarter version of something as in the polar bear? Maybe a biological agent? So it wouldn't be a giant leap that eventually they'd want to experiment on a person, which could be Ethan and possibly these "others".

 

[Fast Learner]

She doesn't even say "my son." She says "my child," leaving the gender open (Alexandra, Alexis, etc. are options for a female, if it's human).