Lost - 4/25/07 "D.O.C." (spoilers)

[Hand of Evil]

Let's do a head count...

Charlie killed Ethan
Anna Lucia killed Goodwin
Goodwin killed Nathan
Sun killed Pickett's Wife
Juliette killed Pickett - doesn't count, Other on Other action there...
Kate/Jack/Sawyer shot & killed a random Other at end of Season 2

Lostaways 4, Others 1

Am I missing anyone else? Did Ethan kill Steve?

Who killed the black woman? Ecko killed one, maybe a couple, when he was being dragging into the jungle. But, yea, the Others have killed less BUT then they have not been defending themselves. The Others don't kill, they get others to do it.

 

[Hand of Evil]

There is no reason for Jullette to lie to Sun, she want to see IF her drug can work on her, she needs Sun to have concieved on the island. Claire, confirmed her theory about the 'death event'. She needs Sun for Sun is the lab rat, and Sun will do anything Jullette says to save the baby. All the castaways' women are.

But...the island is not the same place it was before the sky went purple. I still think that was an important event on the nature of the island.

 

[Taelorn76]

My sister caught something when Mikhael said he was killed "last week." Ben told Juliet he'd meet her in a week. With all the time travel/time jump stuff...what if the Others somehow have a Time Reset Switch (hey, Ren & Stimpy had a History Eraser Button, so anything's possible) that lets them jump a week back in time? It would explain Mikhael being alive; it would explain how the Others always seem to be 2-3 steps ahead of the Lostaways.

I think that explanation is to complicated. Some one posted on another thread that we make things more complicated than they need to be. Mikhael just faked his death. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[Hand of Evil]

I think that explanation is to complicated. Some one posted on another thread that we make things more complicated than they need to be. Mikhael just faked his death. Nothing more nothing less.

Other than possibility of having Locke's help in the fake.

 

[Demmero]

I think that explanation is to complicated. Some one posted on another thread that we make things more complicated than they need to be. Mikhael just faked his death. Nothing more nothing less.

Well, maybe, but then tell me what the obvious, uncomplicated deal is with the woman's bombshell at the end of the episode that the wreckage of flight 815 had been found and that there were no survivors.

The simple, uncomplicated answer to that (it would seem to me) is that since we know that there are survivors, she's lying.

The problem with that, of course, is that she apparently crashed a helicopter and damned near killed herself just to tell that lie.

I suppose it's possible that the passenger and tail sections of the plane were recovered from the ocean...but that begs the question of why the cockpit section couldn't be located on the island.

Nah, I think things ARE complicated. There's way too much coincidence and weirdness going on on that island for things to be exactly what they seem.

 

[el-remmen]

Actually, in one of the podcasts from the creators they said that Sun's lover killed himself by jumping from the building.

Heh. I had never heard that. Funny that they would kill a plot line like that.

Actually, that was pretty obvious from the show to me. I never doubted he killed himself. Strikes me as odd that you could think something else.

 

[Demmero]

The island appears to have healing powers....what if the survivors were actually killed, and "cloned" by the island or something? They're almost like "echoes" of their real selves, who died, and were discovered with the wreckage?
Banshee

Interesting, but if that's the case then why didn't all of the flight 815 passengers survive the crash or have "echoes" on the island?

 

[el-remmen]

I think yes, more Others have been killed than castaways.

DOn't forget Eko killed two when he was being dragged into the jungle, and Jack, Sawyer, Kate & Company killed at least one, maybe two on their way to the dock at the end of the second season, when Michael was leading them back to be captured.

 

[Taelorn76]

Well, maybe, but then tell me what the obvious, uncomplicated deal is with the woman's bombshell at the end of the episode that the wreckage of flight 815 had been found and that there were no survivors.

The simple, uncomplicated answer to that (it would seem to me) is that since we know that there are survivors, she's lying.

The problem with that, of course, is that she apparently crashed a helicopter and damned near killed herself just to tell that lie.

I suppose it's possible that the passenger and tail sections of the plane were recovered from the ocean...but that begs the question of why the cockpit section couldn't be located on the island.

Nah, I think things ARE complicated. There's way too much coincidence and weirdness going on on that island for things to be exactly what they seem.

You were saying the reason he is alive is because the others can skip around in time. And I say the easier explanation is that he faked it. That's two seperate things Mikhael faking his death at the fence has nothing to do with this woman. (BTW She was Vanessa on Vegas), at least on the surface.

 

[DonTadow]

I hate how the writers are playing around with this purgoatory thing agian.

I think that hanso just faked the plane landing but not on as large a scale as people are saying. If that plane disappeared and stayed disappeared for days or weeks, all that would be needed for a confirmation was any large part of the plane thrown out to see. If no islands are in the vicinity and most of the plane is under the water its safe to assume that no one survived.