Mando season 3

I had predicted a "Babu Frik" would appear a few weeks ago, I didn't expect it to be in episode 1 though.
They had appeared in the season 3 trailer, and a fair bit of what was in that trailer was in this episode. When I watched the trailer, it felt like material from across the season, so I hope there is a lot of great stuff coming that we have not seen.
It feels a bit harder to appreciate Mando these days, particularly after Boba Fett (which was very bad in a sort of likeable way but definitely bad) and given how extremely, excessively good Andor was (to my huge surprise).
Yeah, The Mandalorian has always been more flash, tone, and style over great substantive writing and deep characters like Andor, but there are Filoni's stories that I hope to see evolve and resolve, like Mandalore and the Darksaber. Ezra and Thrawn's fate was another one, but I guess that will be dealt with in Ahsoka, another character I wish to see more of. This week's The Bad Batch revisited a dangling Clone Wars episode plot thread and I was even geeking out over that, minor as it was.
 

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The Mandalorian cult continue to look like complete idiots, I notice, but with Filoni is there any way to know if that's intentional? The scene with the tarrasque just made them seem incompetent and completely lacking in tactical acumen or ability to think on their feet. Like maybe try leading it away from the beach whilst someone gets your heavy weapons (presumably they have armed ships/vehicles, they got there somehow)? Or you could just fly real close to it and attach drag lines to something which weighs literally 1000x more than you do, I'm sure that'll go great.
What do you mean by "continue"? They looked pretty bad ass in season 1 when they came to Din's rescue on Nevarro, even if it did lead to their extermination.

Judging by the shiny fresh coats of paint on their helmets, I'm assuming that the majority of the Armorer's cultists in this season opener are new recruits (probably orphaned teens and younger) who haven't had the training to become competent Mandalorian warriors yet.
 

What do you mean by "continue"? They looked pretty bad ass in season 1 when they came to Din's rescue on Nevarro, even if it did lead to their extermination.
That's literally the only time they've appeared competent. Every other time they've appeared they've seemed to be nutters and/or incompetent.
 

I don’t understand why they fought that sea monster at close quarters. Just walk up the beach a bit and grab a rocket launcher?

I’d say it was some weird honour thing where they had to fight it that way, but they weren’t bothered by being bailed out by a starfighter. So it wasn’t that.
 

That's literally the only time they've appeared competent. Every other time they've appeared they've seemed to be nutters and/or incompetent.
I won't despute the nutters label, because they're clearly an unhealthy religious cult, but I'm struggling to think of other instances where they've appeared incompetent.

I don’t understand why they fought that sea monster at close quarters. Just walk up the beach a bit and grab a rocket launcher?

I’d say it was some weird honour thing where they had to fight it that way, but they weren’t bothered by being bailed out by a starfighter. So it wasn’t that.
Yeah, it was a bit weird, but again, I think it's intended to show their lack of training. With a few exceptions, they're all too new at being Mandalorians.

Also, I wouldn't say they weren't bothered by being bailed out. It's not like doing that got Din back in the good graces with the Armorer. In fact, she seemed happy to just ignore him until it was obvious he wasn't going to go away, and then she just started off by reiterating that he was no longer welcome.
 

solid opener. I like that Bo Katan is just like "no saber no leader, now what the heck do I do?" That was unexpected but I dig it.

It is really surprising that they committed to tje Boba Fett plotline, aka if you didn't see boba fett you really don't have a clue how people are at where they are at. They didn't even cover it in the opening recap!
 


solid opener. I like that Bo Katan is just like "no saber no leader, now what the heck do I do?" That was unexpected but I dig it.
Yeah, she was sulking hard-out in that fancy castle of hers. But then she's been having a rough time of it lately. She didn't really want the darksaber at first, and when she was finally convinced to take it, it ultimately led to the downfall of her people and the destruction of their planet. By that point, she had clearly convinced herself that she deserved the saber, so she dedicated her life to winning it back from Moff Gideon, but then she was thwarted at the last moment when Gideon manipulated events so that Din would win it rather than her. And now her motley band of Mandalorians has abandoned her as a failed leader. So yeah, I dig where she's at too.

It is really surprising that they committed to tje Boba Fett plotline, aka if you didn't see boba fett you really don't have a clue how people are at where they are at. They didn't even cover it in the opening recap!
Not entirely, no. I did notice a few scenes from Boba Fett in the recap, but not the ones explaining why Grogu returned or how Din got his new spaceship. They did kinda rehash why the Armorer threw him out of the cult, though.

I wasn't too keen. If she can't keep a loyal following without the dark saber, she's not the right person to wield it.
I think that's the point - that she's not the right person. It's a bit sad, as it seems like they're saying that Sabine made the wrong choice, but perhaps Bo-Katan was the best choice at the time ... and now her time has passed and it's time for Din to rise up and reunite the clans.

At this point, I'm still hopeful that Favreau and Filoni will be able to wrap up this long-running Mandalorian saga in a neat little bow.
 
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I won't despute the nutters label, because they're clearly an unhealthy religious cult, but I'm struggling to think of other instances where they've appeared incompetent.
I mean, it's more a profound lack of actual competence and efficiency, I guess, particularly tactically, which extends to include Mando himself sometimes. I mean this dude took the Darksaber into multiple fights, clearly without having even practiced with it (!!!), because he was hideously surprised by its weird-ass physics/inertia (it's clearly got something going on that lightsabers don't), managed to badly injure himself with it (frankly he was lucky not to lose a leg), and managed to almost-lose nearly every fight he's drawn it in, and in S2 (and especially Boba Fett, both his individual episode and the shared one) generally a lot of his tactics have been pretty much non-existent or just brute-force idiocy. Which is accidentally (?!) highlighted by people like Fennec Shand being extremely prepared and ninja. I mean, he's not Boba Fett levels of incompetent (#1227 in "phrases you thought you'd never type"), but it feels like S1 portrayed him as a Clint Eastwood-movie-level badass, who advised people pretty reasonably on tactics, but in S2 he was more of a "buffoon in cool armour with great reflexes/precision shooting" (a character surely familiar to many gaming tables!). I suspect S3 intends to continue the latter.

He was bizarrely good with his starfighter this episode, but it was the camera cuts causing his fighter to teleport to illogical positions (in at least one case I think impossible, as we'd have seen it on camera if it'd gone there), combined with the pirates using terrible tactics (they didn't even break when he was behind two of them, that's like literally the first thing you do!). The latter was at least partially explained by them trying to lead him to the battleship on their end though.

As for the rest of the cultists, I think there's more dysfunction than just "a buncha noobs" can explain (which I don't think is even the case given how many of them had multiple pieces of armour, something Mando took decades to get), esp. as we know some of them (like machinegun man) are more experienced. No-one took charge, no-one gave orders. Some people followed the leads of others, but it was completely disorganised idiocy and outright bad tactics. From that and the guy basically trying to mug him for the Darksaber it really feels like the cult has an "every man for himself" (in a sort of "ancient warrior" kind of way) thing going on, which is weird given they say the opposite.

But again, Favreau and Filoni, so can we know for sure they're meant to be competent or not? I think we can with the Darksaber stuff, but only because he was shown stumbling with it so many times and injuring himself.

It's particularly confusing because of Boba Fett too had a lot of just outright incompetence and it was unclear if that was intended as incompetence or just how Favreau likes it.
 

I wasn't too keen. If she can't keep a loyal following without the dark saber, she's not the right person to wield it.
Isn't it more of a commentary on the Mandalorians themselves?

One thing has been consistent in Filoni's portrayal of them, which is that they're a backbiting, fractious, political lot, not really the "honorable warriors who live for battle" they portray themselves as. This is historically extremely sound, because countless ancient cultures acted that way - presented themselves as super-honorable warriors, but were actually fractious and followed power and plunder, not good leadership. And when I say ancient and I think about it that actually applies pretty well to quite late in history, it only starts becoming outright abnormal after like 1000 AD.
 

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