Monster Manual III


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Olive said:
I have a wierd feeling that the MoF monsters might get a longer, art using update in MM3, but that's just a guess, and it's not borne out by the planar monster's list from Eberron (no abashai, ghour etc)

Hmmm... now I see that the Planar Handbook will have planar monsters maybe these will be in here?
 

the Jester said:
I really approve of the trilloch's inclusion in the MM3. It's one of the few old skool monsters that hasn't yet been updated that I really miss- it's not 'just another ____ [fill in goblinoid, dragon, ooze or other common monster type with multiple iterations]' or 'another improved grab monster' or something. It's really, truly different. Although I don't know that I've actually used one since 1e, if it's in the MM3 I'll make a point of it!

I only remember the Trilloch from its inclusion in the Planescape Monstrous Compendium III, the inner planes one. Where did the Trilloch appear in 1e? I never played till 3e, so I've honestly never seen much of the 1e material. I'd be curious to compare that to the 2e PS version I'm nostalgic for. (Can you be nostalgic for material from an edition that was dead before you started playing the game? Heh.)
 


DonaldRumsfeldsTofu said:
Monster Manual 2 is Cartwright. Anyone who doesn't have a need for Phoenix, Sirine, and Moonrats in their campaign is a sinner.

Um, isn't the Phoenix a really bad monster? By the time you're ready to fight it, doesn't the combat go like this:

1. Players hit the Phoenix.
2. If the players kill it in a round, they win.
3. If the Phoenix is still alive by it's turn it blows up, hurting all the players, and reappearing at full HP.
4. Players hit the Phoenix.

Did I miss something?
 

mini rant

I don't like how WotC doesn't re-print classic monsters that appeared in Manual of the Planes, Book of Vile Darkness, Book of Exhalted Deeds, etc. in the hardback Monster books (MM2, FF, MM3). Such monsters include: Chasme demon, Rutterkin demon, the 2 Genies that didn't make it into the 3.0 MM, etc. It would be much easier to reference these beasties if they were all in the same place. Also, people who don't own the afforementioned books but collect the Monster books would not be missing out.

I don't know, is this a silly idea?
 
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For me the rule is simple. If it isn't OGC, then I probably won't bother.

They force every other game company to make the stats for all of the monsters they publish OGC, and then don't do it themselves. That to me is just plain rude.

My gaming group has 2 copies of the Core Books, and everyone else just runs from the SRD. It works great. To be honest, I find that we get more enjoyment with making modifications to the SRD monsters than we do with new monsters half the time; though there is a lot to be said for something that the PCs have absolutely no idea about.

That being said, if MM3 looks significantly better than MM2 or FF (it would have to look a lot better), then maybe I will give into the D&D bug once more.

Richard Canning
 

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