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I pointed this out in the other thread, too, but I also don't see anything that says that truesight would make you immune to illusions. It's not like 3e truesight - according to p. 283 of the MM, it just gives you the ability to see invisible things.hong said:Actually, where does it say that truesight makes you immune to illusions?
Well, the issue here is deciding what counts as the "fear" part of the effect. The Keywords section of the PHB says that "Resistance or immunity to one keyword of a power does not protect a target from the power's other effects" (p. 55).Bagpuss said:Does Dire Radiance or Dread Star have any effect on a Balor (Immune to fear)?
So, the Balor is immune to the "fear" portions of the power, but not the other portions. The potential problem is that the powers themselves don't necessarily give a breakdown of which effects come from which keywords.
Sometimes, it seems pretty straightforward. Dread Star is radiance and fear, and it does radiant damage, immobilizes, and gives a Will penalty. Clearly, the radiant damage is from the radiant keyword, and it seems like the other two are the fear. So, a balor would take the damage, but wouldn't be immobilized or take a Will penalty.
Dire Radiance is more difficult. It's not clear there what results from the fear and what doesn't. At the other end of the power spectrum, Doom of Delban seems to be in the same boat.
Looking at the definition for the "fear" keyword in PHB isn't much help - it just says "powers that inspire fright." On the other hand, the MM says that fear powers "impose penalties through fright or cause the affected creatures to flee" (p. 281).
By that definition, I suppose one could rule that any numerical penalties, negative conditions (which seem like they ought to count as penalties), or forced movement that comes attached to a power with the fear keyword is the result of the fear, unless the power specifies otherwise, and so should be ignored by creatures immune to fear.
That seems a little tenuous, though, and would also leave us with a position where fear immunity doesn't help at all against powers like Dire Radiance or Doom of Delban, despite their having the keyword.