Move Equivalent Action.

[KarinsDad]

Standing up from prone precludes you from charging. If you charge (partial, full, hasted or otherwise), all movement in the round must be in a straight line. The act of standing is basically a 5' step in the UP direction that requires a move equivalent action.

Actually, it is not.

For example, you can get up, move 5', and still attack since as long as you move no actual (horizontal) distance with a move equivalent action portion of a standard action, you can still move 5 feet and do the "action portion" of the standard action.

Getting up is a move equivalent action, not a move.

 

[Bonedagger]

Sometimes, but sometimes not. The partial charge, start a full round action, and partial run leap to mind as entries on the table which cannot be turned into standard actions by adding a move/move equivalent. That's why there are separate lists of standard and full-round attack, movement, and miscellaneous actions.

I've run out of ways to say this. I surrender to your superior endurance.

That is why it says "As a general rule".


The miscellaneous actions doesn't fit the normal categories (p. 127).

In the move-only actions you are excanging your partial action for a move-equivalent action (So no 5-foot steep allowed. Otherwise it would be a move-equivalent action + a 5-foot steep. Another rule clarifies that you cannot do that). And the partial charge is special (Because of it's move).

Edit: Oh yes. And in the "Start full-round action" there is no move to remove.

 

[dcollins]

Not quit. He's only talking about the movement. The 5-foot move is the sole reason why standard actions and fundamental actions are being separated.

No. The FAQ question which spawned the answer was focused on movement.

The FAQ declaration that "You don’t get a move-equivalent action plus a partial action as your turn." is in no way limited to movement-only. The following sentences are merely clarifications to the specific preceding question.

 

[Bonedagger]

No. The FAQ question which spawned the answer was focused on movement.

The FAQ declaration that "You don’t get a move-equivalent action plus a partial action as your turn." is in no way limited to movement-only. The following sentences are merely clarifications to the specific preceding question.

A Standard action minus the move-equivalent action and a partial action are not the same. That is what the FAQ describe. However. What your FAQ examples does not mention that a Partially Action generally is a Standard Action minus movements (And don't forget that a partial action can be exchanged with a move-equivalent action but then you are not allowed to make a 5-ft steep (Which is also a move)).

For further detail look on the posts just belove.

 

[Bonedagger]

Standard Action = Movement (Move-equivalent) + Action.

Partial Action = Movement (A 5-ft steep) + Action.
[Note: The Action can be replaced by a move-equivalent action but then you are denied a 5-ft steep. (See "Move only partial actions" Tabel 8-3)]


Remove Movement and "Partial Action" = "Standard Action".



Added:

A Partial Stand Up From Prone Action= movement (5-ft steep) + Move-equivalent (Stand Up From Prone).
(Since you don't actually move you are allowed to make a 5-ft steep.)

Partial Charge = No Move (Denied) + Special Movement.


Standard Action = Move-Equivalent Action (Stand Up From Prone without a move you get in a partial action) + (Special) Action (Partial Charge without the move you get in a partial action.. Which was denied)

 

[doktorstick]

Standing up from prone precludes you from charging. If you charge (partial, full, hasted or otherwise), all movement in the round must be in a straight line. The act of standing is basically a 5' step in the UP direction that requires a move equivalent action.

I asked about this a long time ago and the answer was that standing up from prone was not a move/5-ft. step. It is a MEA.

/ds