D&D 5E Mythic Odysseys of Theros is the #1 D&D New Release

[Doc_Klueless]

Preorders are sales so at the very least set a floor to sales, but not a ceiling.

No, they're not. They are only probable potential sales. They're more like dinner reservations at a restaurant. It's an indication that someone is definitely thinking about buying what is being offered, but they still may not do so.

I do pre-orders all the time on many different things.. My card does not get charged until around the actual ship date. And by then, I've tended to cancel about half of them.

"When you preorder on Amazon when does it charge?"

"When you pre-order a not-yet-released item on Amazon, you will not be charged immediately — instead, the card on file will be charged a few days before the item is released, typically when it ships or a few days prior to its shipping, depending on the item."

So pre-orders are good for getting a kinda sorta feel for an items possible floor to sales, but that's it.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

The material from both Theros and Odyssey will be used for an eventual Arkhosia/Bael Turath game in an (also eventual) Nerath game.

The campaign from Odyssey looks a little railroad-y but 1) me players love their railroad 2) I think it could be mixed with a nautical campaign such as Saltmarsh to create a smoother progression. I could even add to that the high level adventures from 4e to go with the Odyssey campaign after the main storyline.

 

[gyor]

No, they're not. They are only probable potential sales. They're more like dinner reservations at a restaurant. It's an indication that someone is definitely thinking about buying what is being offered, but they still may not do so.

I do pre-orders all the time on many different things.. My card does not get charged until around the actual ship date. And by then, I've tended to cancel about half of them.

"When you preorder on Amazon when does it charge?"

"When you pre-order a not-yet-released item on Amazon, you will not be charged immediately — instead, the card on file will be charged a few days before the item is released, typically when it ships or a few days prior to its shipping, depending on the item."

So pre-orders are good for getting a kinda sorta feel for an items possible floor to sales, but that's it.

People can cancel orders, but unless something new major happens I just don't see it in any major numbers.

I did cancel my order for Wildemount because I liked Theros a lot better (no insult intended to Wildemount, it sounds well written and it looked great in the youtube preview).

 

[Doc_Klueless]

People can cancel orders, but unless something new major happens I just don't see it in any major numbers.

Oh, I agree! I was just trying to be helpful in case you thought pre-orders were actual sales. I think they're probably very good at getting estimates, much as you described.

 

[Ashrym]

Well, it new, innit? In other news Gone with The Wind isn't #1 at the box office right now.

Compare all time box office adjusted for inflation. It's been #1 at the box office since 1939.

Top Lifetime Adjusted Grosses

www.boxofficemojo.com

 

[jayoungr]

Interesting that Volo's is rolling large, but Mordenkainen is more than 40 slots below. I mean, it is more recent, but I suspect the content has to factor in - it's got a lot of classic stuff, but it hasn't got the ultra-core D&D monsters Volo's has.

Volo's is also more of a player-facing book, while Mordenkainen's is more DM-facing. Players greatly outnumber DMs.

 

[gyor]

Volo's is also more of a player-facing book, while Mordenkainen's is more DM-facing. Players greatly outnumber DMs.

I would actually say MTOFs is more Player facing then VGTM because only the small Player race chapter is for PCs, the rest of VGTM is about, well monsters, were as the entire MTOFs book is Player race based except for part of the bloodwar section and the beastairy. Elves, Tieflings, Dwarves, Halflings, Gnomes, Gith get a lot of love in this book, were as in VGTMs it's Hags, Giants, Kobolds, Gobliniods, Yuan Ti and Orcs that get the attention (and yes Purebloods, Kobolds, Gobliniods, and Orcs get stats for PCs, they are still viewed as monster races in the book, compared to Aasimar, Tabaxi, Firbolgs, Goliaths, Tritons, ect...)

Although VGTM has one key Player advantage, mechanics for more popular races, and more of them, the none Beastairy section of MTOF is mechanics like because only four new subraces, some reprinted subraces, and one new Race.

 

[Parmandur]

I would actually say MTOFs is more Player facing then VGTM because only the small Player race chapter is for PCs, the rest of VGTM is about, well monsters, were as the entire MTOFs book is Player race based except for part of the bloodwar section and the beastairy. Elves, Tieflings, Dwarves, Halflings, Gnomes, Gith get a lot of love in this book, were as in VGTMs it's Hags, Giants, Kobolds, Gobliniods, Yuan Ti and Orcs that get the attention (and yes Purebloods, Kobolds, Gobliniods, and Orcs get stats for PCs, they are still viewed as monster races in the book, compared to Aasimar, Tabaxi, Firbolgs, Goliaths, Tritons, ect...)

Although VGTM has one key Player advantage, mechanics for more popular races, and more of them, the none Beastairy section of MTOF is mechanics like because only four new subraces, some reprinted subraces, and one new Race.

And they are all currently selling well, across the board.

 

[teitan]

Preorders are sales so at the very least set a floor to sales, but not a ceiling.

They aren't "sales" until Amazon actually charges the method of payment. These are projections of sells. That's why some lists have weird anomalies.

 

[teitan]

I preordered it last night, I wasn't sure if I would because I don't need another campaign setting but then I thought, well, I could do one shots on occasion or maybe finally do an over the top Clash of the TItans style game plus the races and subclasses, spells etc might be useful. I didn't get the Ravnica book because I am not a Magic fan but the more I thought about it, the more useful THIS one sounded.