New leak looks real bad

[Haplo781]

D&D Shorts has been accurate throughout this saga AFAIK so this is pretty concerning to me.

$30 subs? AI Dungeon Masters? If I heard this a year ago I'd dismiss it as ridiculous. Now? It's about par for the course.

 

[Haplo781]

Aaaand Nerd Immersion is confirming as well.

This is like... If all the hyperbole about 4e were literally true it still wouldn't be this bad, folks.

 

[mamba]

Well, I am looking forward to this, can only add to the show

 

[ersatzphil]

I'm... awfully skeptical, but it's interesting that the pricing in the rumor lines up with the supposed 'leaked D&DBeyond slide' from awhile back: link.

edit: This was confirmed as fake: link. What that says about the above? No idea.

 

[mellored]

If you want to see what an AI can do as a DM, here is a slightly older example.

https://play.aidungeon.io/

The field is rapidly advancing. Though I have no idea how WotC would get expertise in it.

 

[MrGrenadine]

Ha. That’s awful.

Well, whether it’s true or not, my campaigns will be happily chugging along while paying them exactly $0.00.

 

[Incenjucar]

I'm fine with AI DMs or players for people who can't find people - then it's basically a video game, and NWN did not end anything. $30/year is absurd for a video game, however.

 

[Haplo781]

I'm fine with AI DMs or players for people who can't find people - then it's basically a video game, and NWN did not end anything. $30/year is absurd for a video game, however.

$30/year

Haha. Hahaha.

Hahahahahaha

Yeah, that would be insane, wouldn't it?

Let alone the $30 per month they're actually planning to charge.

 

[mamba]

I'm fine with AI DMs or players for people who can't find people - then it's basically a video game, and NWN did not end anything. $30/year is absurd for a video game, however.

at that point I’d rather play an actual videogame though, an AI VTT is just a bad game

 

[Incenjucar]

Haha. Hahaha.

Hahahahahaha

Yeah, that would be insane, wouldn't it?

Let alone the $30 per month they're actually planning to charge.

Typo on my part, I think my brain refused to type "month" because it was obviously wrong.

 

[TolkienThePiss]

Wow. $30 a month to roll dice with a chatbot? Why not just make a video game and be done?

 

[John Lloyd1]

Aaaand Nerd Immersion is confirming as well.

This is like... If all the hyperbole about 4e were literally true it still wouldn't be this bad, folks.

Is that including all the hardbacks? If it did, that might be more reasonable if it also includes vtt and all the DnD beyond features. I wouldn't pay it, but I tend to do the micro transactions.

 

[MockingBird]

I'm... awfully skeptical, but it's interesting that the pricing in the rumor lines up with the supposed 'leaked D&DBeyond slide' from awhile back: link.

Oh wow, yeah I forgot about this. Definitely lines up. Wonder how long they will wait to walk this back? I'm expecting to hear from WotC again this week.

 

[Haplo781]

Is that including all the hardbacks? If it did, that might be more reasonable if it also includes vtt and all the DnD beyond features. I wouldn't pay it, but I tend to do the micro transactions.

Reminder that 4e offered that deal for a third the price (although their VTT never materialized for reasons outside their control).

 

[Haplo781]

Oh wow, yeah I forgot about this. Definitely lines up. Wonder how long they will wait to walk this back? I'm expecting to hear from WotC again this week.

Sometime after the movie tanks and they get an angry phone call from Paramount.

 

[Dausuul]

Yeah, $30/year actually is reasonable. $360/year... that'd be a hard no from me.

And homebrew banned at base tiers? You have to pay extra to homebrew? WTF?

I was planning to boycott Wizards until they quit trying to kill the OGL. If this is where Wizards-D&D is headed... I guess that'd be the end of my boycott. It isn't boycotting if you weren't going to buy it anyway.

 

[Haplo781]

No wonder they want to kill the OGL. This is the kind of scheme that can only work if you have no competition.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I'm fine with AI DMs or players for people who can't find people - then it's basically a video game, and NWN did not end anything. $30/year is absurd for a video game, however.

It's $30 for a quasi video game + what amounts to a digital magazine + who knows what else, this is the top tier, we don't know how much the lower tiers will cost.

 

[Mallus]

This is a good time to remember social media personalities & assorted YouTubers are frequently businesses that make money from controversy.

 

[eyeheartawk]

Do the monthly content drops at the $30 per month tier count as "Surprise Mechanics"?