New tidbit about spells and hit points.

[Visceris]

Great, they gimped the beholder.

There was nothing wrong with the mass damage rules. For godsakes if you are going to take that much damage in one hit that is major trauma to the freaking body. Pathetic.

 

[Victim]

Great, they gimped the beholder.

There was nothing wrong with the mass damage rules. For godsakes if you are going to take that much damage in one hit that is major trauma to the freaking body. Pathetic.

Yeah, except that every hit at high levels pretty much everything requires a massive damage save. And the massive trauma is reflected in the 50+ damage which kills most people anyway.

 

[Visceris]

Yeah, except that every hit at high levels pretty much everything requires a massive damage save. And the massive trauma is reflected in the 50+ damage which kills most people anyway.

Yes, and that is how it should be. When dealing with power on that level if you are on the recieving end there should be a very good chance you will die.

 

[Victim]

Yes, and that is how it should be. When dealing with power on that level if you are on the recieving end there should be a very good chance you will die.

In relative terms, a 50 HP blow to a 120 HP character is no more massive than a 5 HP shot to a 12 Hp character. If the character isn't really tough, they're dead. And there are such things as multiple attacks. Adding a 5% chance for automatic death on every attack isn't particularly helpful - and still doesn't reflect a good chance to die.

 

[Visceris]

Sorry, but I have to disagree.

It just sounds to me that WotC is kiddifying DnD with 4e. Kind of like those old GI Joe cartoons. Hundreds of bullets flying about from machine guns and lasers but no one is ever seriously hurt or dead.

 

[hong]

Sorry, but I have to disagree.

It just sounds to me that WotC is kiddifying DnD with 4e. Kind of like those old GI Joe cartoons. Hundreds of bullets flying about from machine guns and lasers but no one is ever seriously hurt or dead.

You say this like it's a negative thing.

 

[Visceris]

You say this like it's a negative thing.

You actually think that is a good thing?!?!?!

Sorry, but if combat goes on I expect people to get hurt, maimed, and D.E.A.D.

 

[hong]

You actually think that is a good thing?!?!?!

You also say this like it's a negative thing.

 

[Victim]

Sorry, but I have to disagree.

It just sounds to me that WotC is kiddifying DnD with 4e. Kind of like those old GI Joe cartoons. Hundreds of bullets flying about from machine guns and lasers but no one is ever seriously hurt or dead.

No, they'll just be dead from repeated massively damaging attacks dropping their HP to -30 instead of a fluketastic 5% chance on each attack.

 

[Visceris]

You also say this like it's a negative thing.

Because it is.