Nip/Tuck---it is now one of my faves...

[allenw]

I'm not basing my oppinion on the acting or the writing. I'm sure that the acting if just fine and that the writing is probably really good, but I still don't like the topic and the who the characters are. I suppose that it would just be nice to watch a series that didn't glamourize the outer appearance so much....don't we see enough of that outside of television?

I find Nip/Tuck to be one of the most morally-centered, dismissive-of-superficial-appearances shows on TV. And it's no advertisement for elective plastic surgery, either; rather the reverse, IMO. Just watching the facelift scenes from 2 weeks ago would be enough to keep me off the operating table.

 

[Fast Learner]

I'm with ya there... we commonly have dinner during the show and have to turn away nearly every episode. (I wonder if Julie Andrews really got a facelift for the show -- not on camera, but around the shooting schedule -- or if they just used makeup for the "before" shots.)

It really is a very moral show and absolutely is about the unimportance of superficiality. Anyone who criticizes it for that and hasn't watched it just doesn't know what they're talking about. Two weeks ago one of the major plots was about reconstructive facial surgery after a horrible gunshot wound, and this week had a big plot about genital mutilation and the accompanying psychological horror. They constantly make fun of the vanity of Dr. Troy and he in no way comes off as a good guy for being so vain.

Most of all the show is about human beings who happen to be plastic surgeons or who are related to them, a drama in the classic sense that is very well done, on- or near-par with some of HBO's better offerings.

 

[Uzumaki]

I'm with ya there... we commonly have dinner during the show and have to turn away nearly every episode.

You have dinner at 10:00 PM? You watch N/T while you eat it? Are you crazy?

This season seems to be even grislier than last season. I was freaking out last week with the Troy trying to break his own nose. There's more sex, too, especially last night's episode.

(I wonder if Julie Andrews really got a facelift for the show)

Julia's mother is played by the actress's real mother, a little-known lady named Vanessa Redgrave. I, too, was wondering if she did, but I haven't been able to find anything on it. I have a feeling it's just really good makeuppers. Those people can do anything on this show.

 

[Obfuscated]

I've been thinking that I was the only one glued to this show.....

I caught an early episode in Season 1, and haven't been able to stop watching. I don't quite know what it is that fascinates me so.

It's like those people who stop to look at an accident scene, only the accident in this case is the enormous moral train-wreck that makes up the characters lives.

For a show with only 4 or so main characters, it packs more drama (and grisly surgeries) than ER!

In fact I think I know what it is that keeps drawing me back to the show. It's the intensity. The show is full of tension. Whether it's sexual tension (with your partner's wife, or her mother ) , anger between the characters, fear (of failure, being shot by a drug lord, arrested for hit and run, etc.).

After I watch this show I feel like exhausted. And then I think about the moral choices that each character was forced to make in the episode. And let me tell you, some people make very poor and selfish choices. That's something that we all do, sometimes.

But this show in particular seems to play a moral game of 'spin the bottle'. I'm not even sure that some of the characters have a working moral compass, but each one has shown (and portrayed on-screen quite well, I might add) that they are neither good nor bad, just human.

Wow, I think that's more than my $.02 worth. So I'll stop now.

-Obfuscated

 

[Fast Learner]

Julia's mother is played by the actress's real mother, a little-known lady named Vanessa Redgrave. I, too, was wondering if she did, but I haven't been able to find anything on it. I have a feeling it's just really good makeuppers. Those people can do anything on this show.

D'oh! I meant Vanessa Redgrave. But, anyway, yeah, what you said.

 

[Enchantress]

I find Nip/Tuck to be one of the most morally-centered, dismissive-of-superficial-appearances shows on TV. And it's no advertisement for elective plastic surgery, either; rather the reverse, IMO. Just watching the facelift scenes from 2 weeks ago would be enough to keep me off the operating table.

To me, all the show is saying is, "get a facelift, and you'll get laid!"

 

[Storm Raven]

To me, all the show is saying is, "get a facelift, and you'll get laid!"

That's part of the condemnation of the superficiality. There are a lot of people who get laid on the show. Do they seem that happy to you?

 

[Enchantress]

That's part of the condemnation of the superficiality. There are a lot of people who get laid on the show. Do they seem that happy to you?

Who said they wanted to be happy? Seems to me like all their interested in is satisfying their libidos. :\

 

[Storm Raven]

Who said they wanted to be happy? Seems to me like all their interested in is satisfying their libidos. :\

Yes, generally they are. Which is what makes their lives so empty and shallow that they are misreable much of the time. I'm not seeing this portrayal as one that glorifies plastic surgery, or plastic surgeons.

 

[Enchantress]

Yes, generally they are. Which is what makes their lives so empty and shallow that they are misreable much of the time. I'm not seeing this portrayal as one that glorifies plastic surgery, or plastic surgeons.

Empty and shallow their lives may be, but are they really portraying that? I just think that all the 'average Joe' sitting at home, watching the show is going to see is that ugly people don't get sex, but good looking people do.