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No Man's Land (Recruitment Closed... Sort of)

Darimaus said:
Sadly, your Dragon won't be able to start with any gold. It's not because its a creature, but because Dragons keep Hordes, not belongings, so all your Dragon's wealth is going to end up staying at home.

There are some Dragon-only magic items and armor in the Draconomicon, would it be possible for him to have some of these? If not, oh well. Also, can i re-arrange / replace feats, both for my mount and for my cohort?

[sblock=Bloodweaver1] Thanks, I'll look into it. I don't think I'd take a lvl of fight though, I need to have a paladin lvl of 20 to get a young gold dragon. [/sblock]
 

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Bloodweaver1 said:
Necro_Kinder[sblock=Paladin Mount]
Also check into the pricing and see if the Bracers of Armor is a cheaper buy than the Mitheral Armor. Force armor is always better than metal armor.[/sblock]
-Blood

[sblock]Hope you don't mind my reading this. Really good suggestions. I think if he's got Mithral armor, though, he might be looking at swapping in some + equivalents, which you can't do with force armor.[/sblock]
 

OK, I see several things I want to respond to...

Insight - was the Ghost an integral part of your 'cleric' idea, or were you just doing a cleric b/c the party wanted healers? You could do a non-ghost cleric if the priest angle still appeals to you. Otherwise, if you want to play a melee bear, I have a suggestion for you...
Drop Wearbear and a few brb levels... instead take Bear Warrior 10.. It replaces Brb rage with you turning into a Dire bear with the following exceptions: Instead of gaining the bear's str/dex/con, you take your own with like +20 str +8 dex +X con. Then, take a few levels of Warshaper, which gives you several good bonuses whenever you're bear-shaped. make your base race Orc or 1/2 ogre(savage species)

Bear Warrior and Warshaper are both Complete Warrior.

Also, if you're worried about all your gear melding when you bear-rage, you could take Vow of Poverty, and make your character a 'righteous wrath' character instead of an "uncivilized berserker".

Darimaus - About the double half-dragon thing... Technically you can't add half dragon twice b/c it says it can't be added to a dragon, and it changes your type TO dragon. The only way to change that would be to go 1/2 dragon, then add another template that changes your type FROM dragon TO something that 1/2 dragon can be added to, then adding half dragon again (probably through levels in Dragon Disicple).

Necro-Kinder - Actualy you still need to take leadership if you want a draconic cohort... the Dragon cohort feat just lowers the dragons effective level/HD for purposes of the leadership feat(I think). Also, in regards to Bloodweaver's comments... Yes, Cavalier would make a great addition if you plan on a lot of mounted combat. I'd suggest Pal10/Cav10.
Personaly, I'd stick with +5 Mithril Breastplate, as it costs 35,000 less than bracers+8, and gives 2 more ac (True, it won't work against incorporeal, but that's probably not gonna pop up too often) AND, I doubt your dragon's DEX will be going over 20 anytime soon. Also, check the Draconomicon for good Dragon items if you plan on equiping your dragon, there's pectoral of lesser/greater manueverability, and a few others, too(Keeping in mind it'll have to come out of your own cash for both dragons, as Darimaus stated that their 'hoards' will not be used for items). I highly doubt he'll have a problem with you customizing their feats/skills/spells, but it's probably best to wait for his 'official' say-so. Assuming he says it's ok, There's also some good Draconomicon feats for you.. I can't remember their names off the top of my head, but there's one that improves manueverability by 1 step, and one that increases a True dragon's fly speed by 20' and all other's by 10'.

Nephtys - Actually of the characters I've seen you make, I find them fairly good. (Your mage in my epic game is actually going to be a lot more effective after the current fight, you're just getting boned by these two specific beings you're fighting right now.)
Having said that, Yeah, I'll take a look and see if I can figure something out.


Two other random things.. First, I'm not even gonna go near the archer thing, cuz if I did, I'd probably end up making ANOTHER character(that being said archer).. I like making characters too much.
Secondly,
Jemal : Boat 1
Nephtys : Boat 1
Insight : Boat 1
*Burns Immitation* "Excellent".
(Do we really need the other boats? ;) )
 


Jemal said:
OK, I see several things I want to respond to...

Darimaus - About the double half-dragon thing... Technically you can't add half dragon twice b/c it says it can't be added to a dragon, and it changes your type TO dragon. The only way to change that would be to go 1/2 dragon, then add another template that changes your type FROM dragon TO something that 1/2 dragon can be added to, then adding half dragon again (probably through levels in Dragon Disicple).

Actually, Half Dragon can be added to any living corporeal creature, so anyone can take it as many times as they want. I think you were reading Dragon Disciple and using it as a reference, because it can't be taken by dragons.
 
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Necro_Kinder said:
There are some Dragon-only magic items and armor in the Draconomicon, would it be possible for him to have some of these? If not, oh well. Also, can i re-arrange / replace feats, both for my mount and for my cohort?

I'm only going to let you take Dragon specific equipment if you pay for it out of your own pocket, not out of the NPC gold, sorry. As for the feat re-arranging, I'll let you do it for the Cohort, but not the mount. The rules for mounts are very specific in that you get a generic one (same with animal companion and familiars) and so you can only customize what it gains from the bonus HD.
 

Jemal said:
Nephtys - Actually of the characters I've seen you make, I find them fairly good. (Your mage in my epic game is actually going to be a lot more effective after the current fight, you're just getting boned by these two specific beings you're fighting right now.)
Having said that, Yeah, I'll take a look and see if I can figure something out.

(Do we really need the other boats? ;) )

[sblock]
Thanks, high DCs and lots of spells is usually a good thing (though in retrospect I should have made him Venerable).
Hmm, I see your character has a bonus to strength from Fiendish arms. Does that work like a normal magical item (except for the part that involves mutilation) or are there some prerequisites for using the grafts? Would you mind if I stole that part of your concept?
Also, I've noticed when looking at the Wotc boards that some of the optimized characters get an obscene bonus to strength from something called Giant Size. Is there some spell or item that grants that bonus and in that case what's the level and/or price?
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[sblock= Nepthys]Giant Size is a Wu Jen spell found in CArc that allows the caster to increase in size up to Collosal size at CL 19+. Think enlarfe person on steroids.[/sblock]
 

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Well, I thought I would throw my hat into the ring with so many games I play in dying latelty. *boo*
Doh! Looks like the deadline is tomorrow eh?

So that means something I can crap out danged quick... How about a roguish magey sort. Yes, that I can do quickly.

http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=987034

Hrrm, Great holy poopy pants, and here I always liked point buy.. Oh wait that was 4d6 drop lowest, duhh! Ah well, it was an amazing day dream for about 20 seconds. Meh...
Exceeds 80? No, its exactly eighty... so re-roll city then...

http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=987120
Nope... 74 Try, try again, I knew point buy was better... :P

http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=987123
78, sheez oh Peat, no lottery for you today Dave

http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=987133
Um... Yeah. Don't even need to add up this one

http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=987134
Sigh. You know what, bleep-it... this is worse than a carnival game. Okay so Rebaril will be a bit behind the curve stat wise.. So what?
77 points is plenty good enough for me. Besides, with 20 levels to play with, if you can't make a hella butt kickin dude(tte), you ain't tryin' right? :P

4d6.takeHighest(3).minroll(2)-> [4,3,2] = (9)

4d6.takeHighest(3).minroll(2)-> [6,3,2] = (11)
4d6.takeHighest(3).minroll(2)-> [6,5,3] = (14)
4d6.takeHighest(3).minroll(2)-> [6,6,5] = (17)
4d6.takeHighest(3).minroll(2)-> [5,3,2] = (10)
4d6.takeHighest(3).minroll(2)-> [6,5,4] = (15)
4d6.takeHighest(3).minroll(2)-> [4,3,3] = (10)


Anyway, levels and templates for my would sneaky mag

Um lets see Cryptspawn.. Me loves the undead me does, and I just did one a bit back so easy peasy sheet. :P
And.. sneaky tempaltes... sneaky templates.. Ah how about shadow creature from lords of madness?
Yes sirree near 100% auto conceal is niceee for thiefly types, sure enough

So that leaves 17 levels to play with
3 rogue
6 Src
3 arc trickster
5 Recaster (racesof ebberon)


lets see hp wise

http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=987333

Hmm, there we go for now.
 

Darimaus said:
I'm only going to let you take Dragon specific equipment if you pay for it out of your own pocket, not out of the NPC gold, sorry. As for the feat re-arranging, I'll let you do it for the Cohort, but not the mount. The rules for mounts are very specific in that you get a generic one (same with animal companion and familiars) and so you can only customize what it gains from the bonus HD.

Right-o. Think I'm gonna ditch the cohort then. Also, some stupid questions..does my mount get one more feat because his HD went from 14 to 16? He should get one at 15 HD, right? And does ride-by-attack allow me (not my mount) to attack while flying by? or would that be under fly-by-attack too. If so, can I charge while flying?
 
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