If this is true...why the hell do you care so much? You didn't even see the first movie anyway. If you aren't going to SEE it it doesn't affect you AT ALL.
Ever hear of venting?
When I first saw the Silver Surfer streak across a movie screen some months ago, I thought
"HELL, YEAH!"
Oddly enough, the same reaction I had when I saw the first clips for Starship Troopers, and after that, The Phantom Menace.
The difference is that I saw more clips of this movie than of Starship Troopers, and feel forewarned.
1 out of 3... :\
I'm trying to prevent others from suffering as I did, and passed along the warning.
Are you saying that all comic books have been written poorly since 2008.
Nope. I'm saying that:
1) Some comics were well written (or, for that matter, drawn) and some weren't. The ones that weren't, I dropped. If the writing/art improved, I'd consider reading them again.
2) Some comic book movies are well written and some aren't. The ones that aren't don't get my money.
You're not a comic book fan anymore, and if you havn't read in a decade you have no idea whati s going on.
When I was deep in the hobby, I bought everything Marvel & DC made, as well as some Image, Dark Horse and other comics companies produced...and back issues besides. My personal collection dates back to things like Thor#5, and takes up more space than a Hummer.
And I still am a fan, and I'm still in touch. I'm in a comic book shop at least once a week. I even attend the occasional con or talk to the occasional artist. There are even some few titles I still read- Y the last man, PS238, the Orson Scott Card take on Iron Man, Hellblazer and 1602 to name a few. Every week, I get a few titles and updates on the rest...but I buy very few.
I got out of buying most titles regularly because the prices in 1996 versus my enjoyment of the storylines then didn't match up. I'd finish a week's worth of purchases in an hour or two...but the same amount of dough spent on novels lasted much, much longer.
Ultimately, there were too many continuity conflicts, too many recycled plotlines, too many retcons & changed premises...so I voted with my entertaiment $$$ and did other things with them.
Comic books are not novels and even they don't go to the movie as is. Not one person, ONE, can name a single print media that went to the screen perfectly without any additions, deletions, changes in character or setting.
Of course not. However, there are ways of doing it right- say,
Silence of the Lambs, or the first and the latest Batman movies, and many ways of doing it wrong...like the Captain America movies.
They write movies for today's audience.
That's no excuse for drek.
If you excuse bad writing just because its a "comic book movie" just means that you're rewarding bad writing and that the producers of comic book movies won't learn. They'll continue to supply the market with badly written movies because they'll think that we won't care- and rightly so, based on the box office results.
The power swapping idea comes from the current comics and has nothing at all to do with the Silver Surfer, though it may in the movie. Its also, as has been said, a Super Skrull reference
Power swapping/power loss plotlines go back at least to the 1960s, if not further, in both of the 2 major comic companies. Again, its no excuse for a poorly conceived reason for the occurance of the swap.
If they really wanted to refer to the Super Skrull, then they should have used the Super Scrull.
D)
Complaining about both the movie deviating from the source material and the movie being illogical is ridiculous, as the FF (and most superhero) comics have barely make any logical sense on a good day.
Two movies that i felt were the closest comicbook adaptations in a decade were Punisher and Daredevil, neither were received well by the public.
True...but perhaps it was the acting rather than the storyline. Do you mean the Dolph Lundgren or Thomas Jane version of the Punisher? It doesn't matter, neither movie was particularly decent in the acting department. Ever notice that Rebecca Romjin only gets roles in comic book movies (OK...50% of her roles, + a cyberpunk movie...as an AI)?
Ditto Ben Afflek's turn as Daredevil- not exactly the best acting I've ever seen action flick.
He "won" because his "Spidey sense" allowed him to avoid being hit...and somehow, a guy who had taken hits from the Thing couldn't take a few dozen from Spidey, who isn't even in Firelord's strength class, much less the Thing's.
Karma (for those of you who know the faserip Marvel Superheroes game). It is well established in comics (Marvel or otherwise) that occasionally the guy who you think will win based upon powers alone will lose. What it amounts to is built up karma, luck, or whatever you want to call it. Ocasionally, the hero wins because he's the hero.
You may call it bad writing, I call it a genre trope.
Please...Firelord taken blows by opponents far stronger than Spider Man- the Thing and Thor for instance- and not been budged by much of anything shy of their absolute best. I have more of a chance of kicking the armor off of a King Tiger tank that he did of pummeling a Herald of Galactus into submission with just his baseline abilities.
According to Marvel Universe, "Spider-Man is capable of lifting over ten tons under optimal conditions and at maximum exertion"...Firelord, Thor, and the Thing are all cited at being able to lift 60+ tons. That is akin to the difference between the upper body strength of a somewhat athletic adult male (say, 300lb press) and an average 10 year old boy (about 50lb press).
We're not talking David & Goliath here...we're talking about a fistfight.
