TSR NuTSR Sells Rebound 1E Core Rulebooks For $650 Each

Despite being embroiled in ongoing legal disputes with WotC regarding use of the TSR trademark (amongst other things), NuTSR has posted images of leather-bound compilations of AD&D 1E books they say are rebindings of old material, complete with the disputed logo. They're selling these books for $650 each.

The Deities & Demigods book (middle top in the image) has a typo on the front cover.


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About these books, NuTSR says "Look what just came in. Sorry, we didn't have these in for TSR CON. (in the beginning, WotC said similar to what people below are saying. We said they are rebound of old material. Long story short, WotC said ok no problem, we have it in writing)"

As rebindings, these would be existing books simply being resold. However, the covers with the disputed logo are new.

In early March WotC launched a lawsuit -- (PDF attachment of filing) -- naming TSR, TSR CEO Justin LaNasa personally, and the Dungeon Hobby Shop museum. WotC seeks a judgement that TSR hand over all domains, take down all websites, pay treble damages and costs, hand over all stock and proceeds related to the trademarks, and more.

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Cordwainer Fish

Imp. Int. Scout Svc. (Dishon. Ret.)
Isn't that a conjugation?

[Runs for cover]
Well, it's the noun that's changing and not the verb, but it's changing to conform with the number marking on V rather than the place the noun occupies in V's theta grid, but to be excruciatingly correct it's not irregularity at all but suppletion, but actually ... I should probably stop now.
 

Rabulias

the Incomparably Shrewd and Clever
While the misspellings are inexcusable, the missing apostrophes in the titles are accurate. The titles of the 1st Edition Handbooks were "Players Handbook" and "Dungeon Masters Guide" and not "Player's Handbook" and "Dungeon Master's Guide". Even the official 2012 WotC premium reprints of the 1st Edition books honored TSR's original apostropheless titles.
There is a legitimate grammatical error on two of them (or inconsistent stylistic decisions; really either is likely with this crew :rolleyes: ). When listing the individual titles contained, there is no comma separating the second and third title in the DMG and Monster compilations, but there is in the Player compilation.
 



So, off the main topic. Do you keep your books in anything to help preserve them, or just on the shelf? (The paper and cover in my DMG is starting to show its age, and we have an unfortunate number of silverfish in other parts of the house that periodically make it to the bookshelf...)
Wait, silverfish are a book hazard?!

Because being completely revolting little cosmic horrors isn't bad enough?!!!??
 

Lanefan

Victoria Rules
So, off the main topic. Do you keep your books in anything to help preserve them, or just on the shelf? (The paper and cover in my DMG is starting to show its age, and we have an unfortunate number of silverfish in other parts of the house that periodically make it to the bookshelf...)
Nope, just sitting on the shelf along with all their brethren and sistren. :)

Except the UA; which sits in my "active" box along with a PH, DMG, all three MMs, and my DM binder and map folder. This box gets dug into several times a session and at various other times during the week, so the UA isn't exactly treated wihthkid gloves.
 



Faolyn

(she/her)
Welll…maybe yes, maybe no.

IF those books survive this kerfuffle, it’s possible they could become collectibles in their own right, kind of like how certain counterfeited instruments, furniture, and other collectibles have. Now, such knockoffs are seldom anywhere near as valuable as the originals, but they can still command eye-watering prices.

Part of how this happens is the quality of the knockoffs. That’s not a factor here.

But they’re evidence of the existence of a controversy, and as such, might be collected by those who want to commemorate the event.
I think that depends on a lot of things, and a couple of rebound books (or printed out pdfs) made by a bigoted grifter while thumbing his nose at the company he's stealing from... well, it just isn't big enough, or famous enough, to be a collectable. The only people who would really care are his few friends and allies, and it seems like he's been alienating more and more of them as time goes on.
 







Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
Normally, perhaps, but I don't think so because they are re-bindings. Kind of how POD versions of Deities and Demigods have no collectible value. Anyone can do the same thing these guys did, and have them bound themselves. Complete with misspellings if they wanted.
That’s true in one sense, but something like that wouldn’t commemorate the lawsuit, etc. That legal struggle is what would be the root of theie possible collectibility.

In the 1970s & 1980s, Japanese guitar makers were making versions of models by US maker Gibson that were very similar visually to, and- in some cases- better made than the originals. Gibson sued for infringement. The Japanese companies changed their visual aesthetics to avoid future legal issues.

Today, ”Lawsuit Era” guitars command prices higher than functionally identical or superior guitars by the same makers…sometimes even the Gibsons they mimicked. In addition, “lawsuit era” is a label applied to some guitars that weren’t even involved in the actual lawsuit, driving up their prices.

It’s not something that happens often in the collectibles realm. In fact, the opposite is most often true. As @Faolin pointed out, the size and scope of the controversy is a factor. But it happens often enough that the possibility should be dismissed out of hand.
 


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