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Obi-Wan Kenobi (spoilers)


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Haiku Elvis

Knuckle-dusters, glass jaws and wooden hearts.
Ah, good old Scorpius! He'd make a fine Tarkin. But maybe not a younger Tarkin anymore...

He could offer Vader pizza and margarita shooters!

Anyway don't sweat the whole time/aging thing. Ten years after this series Obi wan is due to look like Alec Guiness while Bail Organa is due to look younger than he does now. (based off Rogue One) Just go with the flow.
 

Staffan

Legend
I thought this was more of a trophy room. These Jedi were on display. And, being on display like this, really drives it home to Obi-Wan just how bad things really are. It's one thing to kill your enemies, but, to turn them into hunting trophies is horrific. And, wouldn't this be something of a trophy room for Vader? This is how far Vader has fallen (as if we needed more - but, this is all pre-Episode IV so, Obi-Wan hasn't actually seen just how bad Vader really is yet) and presumably goes a long way to convincing Obi-Wan to not tell Luke who his father really is. I mean, there's a difference between, "Your father is the right hand man to the Emperor, he's really bad" and "Your father is a psychopath, child murderer who keeps trophies of his kills".
I had a thought, given the amber... what if they're frozen on the cusp of death, in mortal terror? We know the Dark Side thrives on fear, so it might serve to make the fortress more Dark Side-y and explain the bad vibes people are mentioning.
 

Staffan

Legend
That scene always was just so jarring (as was the fall itself).

He certainly did a few questionable things in the Clone Wars (definately getting more jealous and occasionally dropping the odd force choke here or there) but his fall was just so sudden. Other than killing Dooku and some light genocide on Tatooine, there were not too many other acts, where you could say 'Yep, evil'.

And then suddenly, he's kneeling before the Emperor, and then off back to the place he just left on a speeder, to slaughter a ton of.... children?

Like I know he murdered a bunch of kids a while back on Tatooine (and told Padme about it, when they first started dating, and she was all like 'we all make mistakes sometimes Annie... like WTF?) but still.
The Dark Side is not just a scorekeeper. While it might not have a mind per se, it is active malevolence. Once you go Dark Side, "forever will it dominate your destiny". So it makes sense that once Anakin succumbed to fear and rage, he'd go all in.
 


MGibster

Legend
At 28:16 we see Leia climbing down the ladder to meet Obi-wan. Do we really need to see her climbing up the ladder?
It's vital to the plot. Or, you know, as vital as finding out how Bruce Waybe gets back to Gotham after escaping his prison in The Dark Knight Rises was to the plot.
 


Staffan

Legend
I guess there is some element of Vancian spellcasting to the Dark Side... If you don't prepare your "crush space shuttles" spell after meditation, you won't be able to cast it.
Star Wars Saga had force powers in a more-or-less Vancian format. So maybe Vader used his telekinesis power to lift the ATs, and didn't have any left for the Phantom. Or maybe he just wasn't angry enough at that point.
 

Star Wars Saga had force powers in a more-or-less Vancian format. So maybe Vader used his telekinesis power to lift the ATs, and didn't have any left for the Phantom. Or maybe he just wasn't angry enough at that point.

Move Object on a (Colossal) Space Transport is possible, but if it's moving you have to overcome its Grapple bonus (+40 or so and up to +50 for some of the bigger ones).

A tall order for an 18th level Vader with +17 to UtF.

He'd need to blow a Force Point, likely also a Destiny point (and you only get 1 a level, and when theyre gone theyre gone) plus have a use of the Power to burn.
 

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