OOC Against the Crimson Tide (Closed)

[Ghostknight]

I thought only if the magical enhancement to AC was +6 or greater. I didn't think that special abilities fell under that category as well.

Well, the SRD is clear on it being applied to special abilities where the market modifier is +6 or above. A pity, yep, but it does mae sense in a way- any ability that powerful is pretty much not going to be found in normal items- the DMG stops at +5 for any special abilities- the rest are from the ELH (or revised SRD nowadays)

 

[Goddess FallenAngel]

Well, the SRD is clear on it being applied to special abilities where the market modifier is +6 or above. A pity, yep, but it does make sense in a way- any ability that powerful is pretty much not going to be found in normal items- the DMG stops at +5 for any special abilities- the rest are from the ELH (or revised SRD nowadays)

A pity indeed. Oh well, I guess I can just make it a +5 Animated shield of... something else. Maybe stack that Manuvering bonus on it to lower the armor check penalty.

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

I'm afraid that the Epic Magic Items section states that

"An item with even one of these characteristics is an epic magic item . . . • Has a special ability with a market price modifier greater than +5."

Thus, all of the weapon special qualities listed in the ELH make a weapon epic if applied. As a friendly suggestion, there is a way to bypass DR X/epic without blowing 720K on a +6 weapon: bane enchantments.

 

[Ghostknight]

I'm afraid that the Epic Magic Items section states that

"An item with even one of these characteristics is an epic magic item . . . • Has a special ability with a market price modifier greater than +5."

Thus, all of the weapon special qualities listed in the ELH make a weapon epic if applied. As a friendly suggestion, there is a way to bypass DR X/epic without blowing 720K on a +6 weapon: bane enchantments.

Only problem with that is you need a pretty good idea of what fow you are going to be facing, it is only going to be above +7 (+5 +2 for bane) against the specified enemy. Or is their a different bane I have missed (hopefully!)

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

I'm using 3.5 DR, so you just need a total +6 enhancement. That means that you can, should you choose to spend the cash, have a weapon capable of penetrating epic DR on six different categories of enemy for a scant 200K. Or, if you're particularly worried about overcoming DR, you can get a +1 weapon with nine Banes, and use Greater Magical Weapon on it. True, you need to know what you're facing, but not narrowed down to a single category.

 

[Someone]

Here´s my alternate:

Name: Segmund Goldkopft
Race: Human
Class: Barbarian 13 / Sorcerer 2/(Black) Dragon disciple 10 (order: 1 barbarian, 2 Sorcerer, 3-4 barbarian, 5 sorcerer, 6-15 dragon disciple, 16-25 barbarian. I could have squeezed one or two more points of BAB taking all Dragon disciple levels later, but that would have been cheesy)
Level: 25
Alingment: CG
Patron deity:

Stats:
.............Total.....Pbuy(cost)..Level..Enhan....Inherent..Ddisciple boost
Str........40(+15)...16(10)........+6.....+6..........+4..........+8
Dex.......24(+7).....14(6)..................+6..........+4
Con.......26(+8).....14(6)..................+6..........+4...........+2
Int........16(+3).....12(4)...............................+2...........+2
Wis.......20(+5).....10(2)..................+6..........+4
Cha.......16(+3).....12(4)...............................+2...........+2

Saves:
Fort: +28 Base +13, Con +8, resistance +5, epic 2
Ref: +19 Base +5, Dex +7, resistance +5, epic 2
Will: +26 Base +12, Wis +5, resistance +5, epic 2, Iron Will +2

Feats: 8 regular, 2 epic feats

Power attack
Cleave
Great cleave
Improved initiative
Iron Will
Weapon focus greatsword
Improved critical greatsword
Endurance (just for flavor. If there´s any feat in the Complete warrior that could fit, I´d like to hear suggestions)

Damage reduction
Dire Charge

Skills: Total ranks (supposing that the +2 inherent was taken at this level) Not counting armor check penalty.
Barbarian: 94 ranks, Sorcerer 8 ranks, dragon disciple 42 ranks.
Survival 15+5=20
Listen 25+5=30
Jump 17+15=32
Ride 17+7=24
Swim 15+15=30
Intimidate 19+3=22
Knowledge (arcana) 16+3=19
Spot 10+5=15
Search 8+3=11

Combat stuff:
Movement: 30 ft in armor
AC: 44 = 10 +13 armor, +9 natural armor, +5 deflection, +7 Dex
Hit points: 23d12+2d4+200 = 360

Resistances and immunities (counting equipment): Damage reduction 6/-, fire resistance 30, acid immunity, immune to mind affecting and divination spells, SR 40, immunity to paralysis and sleep.

Attacks:
Base attack bonus: +16/+11/+6/+1, +3 epic; grapple +34

S´hasla: +5 bane of dragons and evil outsiders adamantine greatsword of speed: +40/+40/+35/+30/+25, damage 2d6+27, crit 17-20/x2
+4 holy cold iron heavy mace: +38/+33/+28/+23, damage 1d8+19
Plus bite +29, 1d6+15

Natural attacks: 2 claws +34, 1d4+15 and bite +29, 1d6+15

+5 mighty (+10) composite longbow: +31/+26/+21/+16 damage 1d8+15

Barbarian abilities: Fast movement, greater rage 4/day, trap sense +4, improved uncanny dodge, damage reduction 3/-

Dragon disciple abilities: Natural armor +4, ability boost (+8 str, +2 Con +2 Int +2 Cha), claw and bite attacks, breath weapon (line of acid 60 feet long, damage 6d8, Reflex half DC ), blindsense 30 feet, low-light vision, darkvision 60 feet, immunity to acid, immunity to sleep and paralysis, wings (fly speed 40 feet, average maneuverability) 7 extra 1st level spells.

Sorcerer spells Caster level 2, D 14+spell level: 0-mage hand, detect magic, detect poison, prestidigitation, read magic. 1- True strike, endure elements.
Level 0- 6/day
Level 1-12/day

Equipment:
S´hasla: +5 dragon and evil outsider bane adamantine greatsword of speed: 203k
+4 cold iron holy heavy mace: 74 k
+5 mighty (+10) composite bow: 51 k
+1 dagger 2k
Quiver with 20 arrows.

Armor of body perfection: +5 mithral full plate of grace and medium fortification. 92k Comes with Gauntlets of strenght +6 36k, Belt of Health +6 36k and an Amulet of Natural Armor +5 50k
Pearl of wisdom +6 (slotless) 54k
Ring of Protection +5 50k
Mantle of Epic SR and resistance +5 327,5 k
Helm of the mind bastion (continuous Mind Blank and See invisibility): 255 k
Boots of the air walker: +6 enhancement bonus to Dex, and act as winged boots: 60 k
Ring of fire resistance, greater 44k
Bag of holding, type IV 10 k. Inside: Quiver with 20 adamantine arrows 1,2; quiver with 20 silver arrows 40 gp, quiver with 20 cold iron arrows, staff of the traveller 94k, wand of polymorph 21k)
Inherent bonuses: 550k

78000 gp.

Custom items:

Staff of the planar traveler: This staff is hard to tell from a simple walking stick. Contains the following spells (at caster level 13) Greater teleport (2 charges), Plane shift (2 charges), Dimension door, Resist Energy.

Armor of body perfection: The plates of this shining mithral suit of full armor are carved to resemble the wearer´s musculature, and adjust to a new owner after a couple of days, allowing him to move and dodge almost as if he were naked. The armor comes with gauntlets that greatly enhance the wearer´s strenght, a belt that improves his constitution and an amulet inlaid in the breastplate that hardens his flesh.

-The helm of the mind bastion has a caster level of 15
-The mantle of epic spell resistance has added the +5 to all ST at a +50%cost
-Same for the boots, have added the cost of winged boots +50%

I don´t have completed the background, but involves a northern tribe of barbarians ruled by a black dragon.

 

[Goddess FallenAngel]

I'm using 3.5 DR, so you just need a total +6 enhancement. That means that you can, should you choose to spend the cash, have a weapon capable of penetrating epic DR on six different categories of enemy for a scant 200K.

I will probably end up doing this, just with everything else I want on my scythe, it's gonna be expensive.

 

[Ghostknight]

Yikes, after seeing the to hits on the fighter types, suddenly my 40AC seems puny and there is no way short of epic items to push it up (Hell, I have armor, enhancement, natural armor and deflection bonuses - there ain't no more for AC!).

Sheesh, To hits get high at this level - I'm gonna have to buy something to give a chance of missing!

 

[Goddess FallenAngel]

Displacement is always nice... try a cloak of Displacement.

 

[Ghostknight]

Displacement is always nice... try a cloak of Displacement.

Yep displacement is the route I am going, but with bracers of displacement as I alraedy have the mantle of Spell Resistance so it will cost 75k gold (out of affinity slot). Similarly I an going for bracelets of resistance (37.5k) to boost saves a bit.