OOC Discussion for A Kingdom of Ashes (The Battle of the Alder's Forest, and Beyond)

[Laurel]

Can't we just wish none of our allies die (except the orc)...

What if we win, but Jaine dies?

Leave the town in the hands of Duke or some NPC and we move on and try to find Filmore who is next closest to throne. Is Arhconus close enough blood wise to mean anything? L'Aurel does not like the idea of Jaine's hubby (Filmore) getting it.

What if we lose and Jaine dies?

Move as our small party only -- assassinate the king or get a spirit blade.

What if we lose but Jaine lives?

Relocate. Know Hywrl and Oceanus are lost causes and there is a bigger picture.

What if we win and the Black Orcs live, too?

If Jaine is alive it depends on what exactly her final agreement was- we would have to honor it if we want any sort of honor associated with us.....

What if we win, and all that's left are Black Orcs?

Then no one is around to see us slaughter them- hey no lawfulness here

What if L'Aurel dies? Archon? Justice? Xath? Kaereth? Arfin?

See Xath's comment above... pretty much the same. Do we want a policy on major NPC's or should we ask them -Duke (we brought him back once), Joshua, Dorn...

 

[Laurel]

Just an idea bouncer

Well, we should ask each character their wishes. Would you want your character to be ressurected? Or how would you want funeral arrangements to be handled? It makes a difference to what happens depending on how many PCs die.

Or we just go with if less then half of us die then we try for ressurected- the PC can say no and refuse to leave heaven or wherever they went to.
But if anyone is a definate 'no' then obviously we go with that for that PC.

 

[AIM-54]

I am of two minds of where I stand on the "where do we go from here" issue:

OOC: Build/recruit an army and let's rock and roll. War is my reason for being and I sure didn't invest in Cry Havoc for the pretty pictures
On the other hand, I love a good dungeon crawl and looking for a spirit blade might fulfill that tiny desire, as well.

IC: The real Dragon Emperor is my master! That's where Lord Miagi went. That's where I want to be...must ensure Master Ryoko's safety...To One Oak!

I am not going to go through every possible contingency because that would be a) boring and b) destroy the fun of being forced to make important decisions on the fly, where can't sit and bicker for hours because we're hideously risk-averse.

In the words of Admiral Farragut, "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead!"

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Or we just go with if less then half of us die then we try for ressurected- the PC can say no and refuse to leave heaven or wherever they went to.
But if anyone is a definate 'no' then obviously we go with that for that PC.

I think it needs to be a personal choice made by the characters...

And, Justice would, most likely, say "no." It's not that she doesn't love fighting for good and smiting the evil... she is just sort of weirded out by the whole concept of coming back from the dead... and maybe a little bent on the fact that destiny holds for us what it will-- when we are taken from this world, we are meant to leave it... and, I'm not going to question destiny.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

If Jaine dies, I would say, we need a replacement-- but, we should ask Jaine if she would want to be brought back... if she does, we can try that.
But, in that light, I don't know if we have clerics of high enough level to bring them back.

Justice is, at this point, wanting more information about the invading army than we currently have. She, in her not-quite as infinite wisdom as Kaereth, would want to travel to One Oak to meet the old Dragon Emperor.

She does note, however, there is merit in the plan to travel to the Isle of Mourning and to get us a spirit blade while, at the same time, continuing to build a kick-butt army to take down the draconids! HUZZAH!

 

[The_Universe]

You can't resurrect somebody that doesn't want to be resurrected--so no worries there. At worst, you'll be wasting magic. However, remember that the clerics are all a little bit leary of such things, and the only time you've seen someone return from the dead it was either at the cost of tremendous magical power (a wish) or in a very different way than she expected (dwarf Xath is now elf Xath). Furthermore, other than yourselves, the only person to attempt such a feat was insane at the time...

Does that mean resurrection isn't possible? Of course not! It's in the PHB, and if you can use it, you can use it. But I don't want death to hold no risk for you all.

Heroes are heroes because they do the things they do at great personal cost. IC, you're all learning what everyone who's ever read a comic book already knows. Just remember that the risks exist, and be happy to damn the torpedoes, anyway!

I'm looking forward to playign tomorrow, hoping to see a great battle resolved on the field of our imaginations.

 

[Laurel]

round 'n round in circles we go....

As for the whole bringing people back... I have no idea... I guess L'aurel would want to come back or at least have it tried... she knows what it entails having seen it being done to Xath and the Duke, and talking to Xath afterwards... but if the time actually comes ::Shrug:: ?

IC: The real Dragon Emperor is my master! That's where Lord Miagi went. That's where I want to be...must ensure Master Ryoko's safety...To One Oak!

L'aurel now knowing this would agree with One Oak. He knows too much for us not to go there. We even already have a boat... now to see if we lose, if we have enough sailors to sail away very fast to where ever we go...
Once we chat with him and/or get more information, we can raise an army, go after a spirit blade, or whatever.
Can't he also be our back-up ruler for Jaine?

 

[The_Universe]

Can't he also be our back-up ruler for Jaine?

You might have a hard time selling this one to the general populace. Master Ryoko may share some strange blood tie with Jaine, but whatever it is would be distant, indeed.

Essentially, it would be just a little closer than the the emperor of Japan claiming the throne of Britain--both are royal, and thus share certain qualities, but they're not interchangeable.

This isn't to say that you can't just conquer the kingdom and put whomever you want on the throne. At that point, legitimate claims don't really matter.

 

[Laurel]

This isn't to say that you can't just conquer the kingdom and put whomever you want on the throne. At that point, legitimate claims don't really matter.

That was more the route I was thinking, yes...
Thoughts: Master Ryoko has experience as ruler and being a good ruler, we are taking the falcon kingdom from it's current ruler anyways, and the three closest blood ties to throne are Jaine, Filmore, and Tain. If Jaine dies we may be stuck going to someone with less claim then Tain anyways.
Unless there are more others out there we/I don't know about.
We could also get to One Oak and Master Ryoko (sp?) doesn't want the job... who knows..
Not really a decision to make now, but something to keep in mind in case we need a back-up.

 

[Xath]

Hey guys,

Have we decided how to get to Hyrule? Here are a few options.

Teleporting: At this point, It would be difficult to obtain a scroll of teleportation. So for options, we can use the last charge of the boots, taking four people to Hyrule. However, two people would be left behind.

Flying: Thane and Ohtar could fly some, but not all of us without becoming burdened. If we flew, we would make it back to Hyrule immediately before the fleeing elves. We'd have no time to rest/replenish resources.

Combo: 4 of us could teleport back, leaving 2 to fly back on Thane and Ohtar. These two would not have time to replenish resources, and would be at risk because they would be separated from the group.

-G