OOC Kingdom of Ashes IV - Who's yo' daddy?

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

WOW that's complicated. Jaine doesn't have any immediate family, though...the closest were her cousins the Rhynns, in Thanesport - remember? I think the AB plan is still the best, if you can convince him.

It's her TWIN SISTER that is exactly like her in every way... except even more broody...

...

I'm not just pulling this stuff out of thin air, you see. I'm pulling it from Justice's experiences...

If people believe in the two Archons...they should belive in the two Jaines.

 

[Laurel]

HAHAHAHAAHA! Okay so I read raised and thought no fair elves raised her then sent her off to be with dwarves..... :?

He's a multiclasser, but emphasis on cleric.

And ressurection is cleric, reincarnate is druid....

 

[The_Universe]

Except that all of Jaine's immediate family was killed by Tain *cough* i mean, assassins.....

Any legitimate family of Jaine's would be known of by the Noble's council.

Right. Jaine has no living immediate family as far as the Noble's Council goes. But, to be fair, she was officially "dead," as well, until she started popping up a few years before you guys came back on the scene. So, you could make the plan work, if she ever had a sister.

What Jaine DOESN'T have, is a sister, at all. She's an only child, which is why she was the Rhynn candidate for Queen.

EDIT: None of this is to say you couldn't gin something up....it's just VERY complicated. I think it's an interesting idea. The most reliable (probably) solution apart from AB...

As for the Validity of AA/AB, remember that AB isn't claiming to be related to (or the same guy) as AA. HE says he's an evil doppelganger, undeserving of happiness, sunshine, and cookies. HE says he's a twisted servant of the Bluestar, even if Preston and Dorn say that's not the case. Two Jaine's wouldn't be the same thing, at all....

 

[Laurel]

Took out the REALLY retarded ones

Solutions we have for The Baby:
1) Get AB to Marry Jaine
2) Find someone who loves Jaine, and is okay to take her unborn kid as 'his'
3) Jaine's 'sister' is pregnant, has kid, dies, Jaine adopts kid
4) L'aurel takes it -however-
5) Jaine double (Hwyrl), Jaine has baby elsewhere, gives kid up for adoption
6) As per spell have someone take Jaine's baby for her
7) AA Marries Jaine

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

I think it would appear to be the same thing through the eyes of peasants-- we know there is a difference... but, I think most commoners just think 'Oh, two Archons... they must be brothers.'

 

[The_Universe]

Or a "I'm the DM and I can make my NPCs do anything they want because I never actually write them up" ability...

... I wish MY characters could have THAT ability.

Well, Dorn is ACTUALLY a little bit of the "I'm the DM and can do what I want" and a little bit of "I'm Crazy and tapping into forbidden magics"

He really DOESN'T have stats, as of so far, but I did pick the druid spell on purpose, knowing it would be incongruous with what you all expected.

I could explain it by multiclassing, but I'll probably go with something more exotic, if it ever becomes necessary.

 

[The_Universe]

I think it would appear to be the same thing through the eyes of peasants-- we know there is a difference... but, I think most commoners just think 'Oh, two Archons... they must be brothers.'

That's plausible. But remember that this little ruse (whatever it is) it not necessarily set up to decieve YOUR commoners. It's being set up to decieve the OTHER commoners/nobles, because they're the ones you need to convince to join you. It may work like a dream on commoners, but it's not going to fool nobles unless you can come up with a good story as to where the sister came from...?

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Solutions we have for The Baby:
1) Get AB to Marry Jaine
2) Find someone who loves Jaine, and is okay to take her unborn kid as 'his'
3) Jaine's 'sister' is pregnant, has kid, dies, Jaine adopts kid
4) L'aurel takes it -however-
5) Jaine double (Hwyrl), Jaine has baby elsewhere, gives kid up for adoption
6) As per spell have someone take Jaine's baby for her
7) AA Marries Jaine

(1) It could work-- but, it could also put the whole kingdom on the line if we don't find a way to break the magical oath that the Lord of Undead placed on AB... for some reason, his dominion over undead makes me question whether or not killing him would release him from the oath at all... so, really, I may not like this idea at all.

(2) Also insert "and that Jaine loves and wouldn't mind spending the rest of her life with"

(3) A little complicated... but it could work.

(4) I would have no objections to L'Aurel adopting the kid after it's born... but, at least one of the transfer pregnancy spells would alter the DNA... might not want to do that with L'aurels... ya know.. scales.

(5) I think it would work just as well as transfering the pregnancy.

(6) See (5)

(7) Really, I think this is the best idea. It is AA's child and, as such, AA's responsibility. It's not like Jaine is a super slut out having sex with a bunch of men-- she gave herself to Archonus out of love. Having AB marry her seems selfish of AA. If it were me, I would own up to the obligations and marry Jaine.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Wait a second...

What happened to Filmore? I know their marriage was a ruse... but-- wasn't it an actual marriage? Couldn't he fess up to Archonus' dirty deed?

And... How does divorce work in KoA?

 

[Laurel]

(1) It could work-- but, it could also put the whole kingdom on the line if we don't find a way to break the magical oath that the Lord of Undead placed on AB... for some reason, his dominion over undead makes me question whether or not killing him would release him from the oath at all... so, really, I may not like this idea at all.

(2) Also insert "and that Jaine loves and wouldn't mind spending the rest of her life with"

(3) A little complicated... but it could work.

(4) I would have no objections to L'Aurel adopting the kid after it's born... but, at least one of the transfer pregnancy spells would alter the DNA... might not want to do that with L'aurels... ya know.. scales.

(5) I think it would work just as well as transfering the pregnancy.

(6) See (5)

(7) Really, I may like this even more than having AB marry her. It is AA's child and, as such, AA's responsibility. Having AB marry her seems selfish of AA. If it were me, I would own up to the obligations and marry Jaine.

Agreement on almost everything-
1) maybe complex but if it can be worked out on the front end it has the least problems on the tail end. Though getting rid of the oath within the next few days may prove to be a serious issue/problem.

4) the lesser of the spells doesn't change DNA, and really this would only be good for knowing the person with the kid will keep 100% quiet about it from that point on- no future blackmailing, no future oops told the world.

7) Agreed, except now it would not be a happy life for them... he should have started with owning up to his mistake or telling Xath something sooner before he knew Jaine was pregnant. Instead he waited till everything else had happened, thus having three people's lives royally messed up. But it seems every so slowly he is learning