The_Universe
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This is a good list, and seems pretty accurate based on what's best for the kingdom. However, remember that something CRAZY would have to happen to convince her that 1. was right for HER.
OOC Kingdom of Ashes IV - Who's yo' daddy?
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Xath
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Laurel said:
Option 2 would have to be sooner than "adoption." She can't continue to grow larger without perpetuating the problem. You're probably looking at transfering a pregnancy here. And I for one say that anyone in the circle is automatically disqualified from taking the child, unless specifically asked to do so by Jaine. It's risky to drag a pregnant circle member around for 6 months, and we can't take that time off.
So essentially what we need is a nobody, preferably a nobody who already has children. And most likely someone outside of the Hyrule/New Oceanus region. A clean break would probably be better than having Jaine watch someone grow with her child more and more every day, and then watch that child. Also, the fewer people who know who the intended parent, the better.
Laurel
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We should offer up Kareth's mom and then do the unwilling transfer....
Oh! what you don't like that? Okay then....
I agree that using anyone of the circle is bad, but if Justice didn't have the ring and got pregnant would she stop fighting? No we can't just sit it out for a few months, and we wouldn't have to. Liz had a good thread (that I am trying to find again) about adventuring while pregnant. Still very possible all the way through, and from a PC knowledge point the Amastatia (one of those heroes from the last great war) travelled and faught while pregnant.
I'm not saying we should be pushing for this, or put this forward first.... but as stated if Jaine where to request/ask/hint at it, it can and should remain an open option.
Oh! what you don't like that? Okay then....
I agree that using anyone of the circle is bad, but if Justice didn't have the ring and got pregnant would she stop fighting? No we can't just sit it out for a few months, and we wouldn't have to. Liz had a good thread (that I am trying to find again) about adventuring while pregnant. Still very possible all the way through, and from a PC knowledge point the Amastatia (one of those heroes from the last great war) travelled and faught while pregnant.
I'm not saying we should be pushing for this, or put this forward first.... but as stated if Jaine where to request/ask/hint at it, it can and should remain an open option.
The_Universe
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Xath said:
Assuming that Jaine is seriously willing to give up her child, which she may not be.
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Xath
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Well then, what does she want? She can't just have everything her way when she won't point out any options. And despite the fact that stupidity got her into this mess, she has to realize that leaving things as they are is dangerous in a physical and political sense to her, her child, and the rebellion. So something has to be done. Is this the circle's business? Not really, any more than we are some of her political advisors. This is something that should be worked out between Jaine and Archon, but something has to be done, and it has to be done soon.
She has to stop moping and do something about this or she could jeopardize any claims of legitamacy with the noble's council.
She has to stop moping and do something about this or she could jeopardize any claims of legitamacy with the noble's council.
Laurel
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Good question!
So we came up with a list of options... since she wasn't a part of the discussion, someone needs to take her the options we have. It should be Archonus.
Until then we can't go any further, but once she decides what she is willing to do then we go from there. If she decides she can't agree to anything we have put forth then there is only so far we can help her.
What she tells us though I guess is the only way we can move past the purly well she would say, she might say, he did say, they would say stages.
If we still need to hammer out the options more then go to it... but the responces seem to be heading into all the what if's. We need her input before we can go further.....
Thoughts?
So we came up with a list of options... since she wasn't a part of the discussion, someone needs to take her the options we have. It should be Archonus.
Until then we can't go any further, but once she decides what she is willing to do then we go from there. If she decides she can't agree to anything we have put forth then there is only so far we can help her.
What she tells us though I guess is the only way we can move past the purly well she would say, she might say, he did say, they would say stages.
If we still need to hammer out the options more then go to it... but the responces seem to be heading into all the what if's. We need her input before we can go further.....
Thoughts?
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Queen_Dopplepopolis
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A Moment to Defend Jaine:
Xath may feel like Jaine is the her man's "baby momma"-- but, when she and Archonus had sex, she was under the impression that he loved her. Moreover, when in love with an adventurer, you do what you must-- and you do it quickly.
Archonus could be killed at any moment. If you were in her shoes, what would you have done? It was not stupidity that got her into this mess-- it was Archonus' lie. To mislead her and have her believe that he loved her is what started this whole mess and now we want HER to give up the baby?
That's a little ridiculous on all our parts.
Xath may feel like Jaine is the her man's "baby momma"-- but, when she and Archonus had sex, she was under the impression that he loved her. Moreover, when in love with an adventurer, you do what you must-- and you do it quickly.
Archonus could be killed at any moment. If you were in her shoes, what would you have done? It was not stupidity that got her into this mess-- it was Archonus' lie. To mislead her and have her believe that he loved her is what started this whole mess and now we want HER to give up the baby?
That's a little ridiculous on all our parts.
Laurel
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yes things happen fast no matter if for adventurer ofr not times are that people don't live really long lives and with a price on her head and Archconus' she may have rushed things.... but he never said I love you. Whatever impression she got it was only that an impression. One that I must say others helped along-remembering some questions Jaine asked someone on how Arhconus felt....
but it doesn't matter who's at fault or by how much. What's done is done for better or in the case for far worse. It sucks all around, and we can argue over who it sucks more for, but again that still won't solve the issue. It effects far more then three people or even just the circle- it effects the new kingdom.
Many things have and did go wrong, but the point is to now to fix it as best as possible.
We have a list of options, it is Jaine's turn to pick from those or start suggestings others.
but it doesn't matter who's at fault or by how much. What's done is done for better or in the case for far worse. It sucks all around, and we can argue over who it sucks more for, but again that still won't solve the issue. It effects far more then three people or even just the circle- it effects the new kingdom.
Many things have and did go wrong, but the point is to now to fix it as best as possible.
We have a list of options, it is Jaine's turn to pick from those or start suggestings others.
