OOC Kingdom of Ashes IV - Who's yo' daddy?

[The_Universe]

Wait a second...

What happened to Filmore? I know their marriage was a ruse... but-- wasn't it an actual marriage? Couldn't he fess up to Archonus' dirty deed?

And... How does divorce work in KoA?

It was not an actual marriage. The whole thing was a ruse to strengthen their claim to the throne, and it could have been legitimated had they been successful in their bid. Since they weren't, over time, their affections faded.

In the words of Dr. Evil, "Things got weird, didn't they?"

 

[Laurel]

Wait a second...What happened to Filmore? I know their marriage was a ruse... but-- wasn't it an actual marriage? Couldn't he fess up to Archonus' dirty deed? And... How does divorce work in KoA?

not sure about the marriage aspect, (Kennon knows for sure) but I thought it was just a ruse as in they just said they were married. They never spoke the vows and never consumated it. It was just something to tell possible allies. Two possible heirs to the throne joining together is better then one is all equal.

There is NO trusting Filmore from L'Aurel's stand point! AB is more trustworthy then Filmore at this point.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

7) Agreed, except now it would not be a happy life for them... he should have started with owning up to his mistake or telling Xath something sooner before he knew Jaine was pregnant. Instead he waited till everything else had happened, thus having three people's lives royally messed up. But it seems every so slowly he is learning

Indeed, it sucks BIG TIME... but, if he goes back now and the wed, the lives that are screwed up number 3... if he doesn't, it could seriously endanger not only our entire rebellion, but the entire kingdom.

 

[The_Universe]

(7) Really, I think this is the best idea. It is AA's child and, as such, AA's responsibility. It's not like Jaine is a super slut out having sex with a bunch of men-- she gave herself to Archonus out of love. Having AB marry her seems selfish of AA. If it were me, I would own up to the obligations and marry Jaine.

This could have worked BEFORE the Archon Xath thing, but is unlikely to work, now. This train has left the station. If Jaine wanted this to happen, she would have suggested it, already.

 

[The_Universe]

The fact remains that Jaine is not going to want to marry Archonus Arendorr in the status quo. He'd have to somehow convince Jaine that he in fact still loved her for her to even consider it. She might have to marry someone out of duty to the kingdom, but because of the way she was treated, it will not be Archonus Arendorr, unless he can effectively pretend that he never really loved Xath, and was mind-controlled or something.

Jaine understands duty, but she's a person, too. AA is EXTRAORDINARILY unlikely to be an acceptable choice.

 

[Laurel]

#7 is far at the bottom it should be taken off the list

So What about "2) Find someone who loves Jaine, and is okay to take her unborn kid as his."

Is there anyone she has been looking at? Leaning on more then others? Is there anyone who has been looking at her in the lovey-dovey way? Making sure to be in her presence at all possible times? NPC's?

Even if it's not an earth shattering love that binds the two, if her future husband is one that has loved her from a far kind of thing and she at least likes him. It looks to be a good solid and possibly content and happy marriage.

Not a bad outcome..... anyone?

 

[The_Universe]

So what about "2) Find someone who loves Jaine, and is okay to take her unborn kid as 'his'"

Is there anyone she has been looking at? leaning on more then others? Is there anyone who has been looking at her in the lovey-dovey way? Making sure to be in her presence at all possible moments if possible? NPC's?



Even if it's not an earth shattering love that binds the two, if her future husband is one that has loved her from a far kind of thing and she at least likes him. It looks to be a good solid and possibly content and happy marriage.



not a bad outcome...... anyone?

This would be alright, but there really isn't anybody. Since she arrived here in Hyrwl/New Oceanus, she was close to Archonus, and then she got burned and pregnant, and so she hasn't really been close to anybody since then.

She has servants and advisors, but no one that she confides in, save you. In short - Jaine's life sucks.

 

[Xath]

Jaine's Options (in order of what's best for the kingdom)

1. Archon Arendorr marries's Jaine. It make her claim for the throne stronger because the Arendorr line also has strong ties. Their child, legitimized would have more claim to the falcon kingdom than any other noble family. It also doesn't involve us making up rediculously complicated lies and deceiving the people who's trust we want.

2. Jaine is no longer pregnant. Whether she gives the baby to another person or takes another alternative, this option gives the rebellion a strong leader. If Jaine's no longer pregnant, she can be cured. If she is cured, she can resume her full duties. It gives the falcon kingdom a strong ruling figure, and does not open any legitimacy/skank issues.

3. Jaine marries someone else. Preferably human, or a derivative therof. This gives the child some legitimacy, unless of course, the child is born with the mark. Even if she marries AB, don't forget, we're not the only people with access to spells like Commune. If Commune can reveal the truth about Tain to us, it can reveal Jaine's deceptions to the Noble's Council. The less we lie to people the better.

 

[Xath]

This would be alright, but there really isn't anybody. Since she arrived here in Hyrwl/New Oceanus, she was close to Archonus, and then she got burned and pregnant, and so she hasn't really been close to anybody since then.

She has servants and advisors, but no one that she confides in, save you. In short - Jaine's life sucks.

No matter how much of an (buthole) Archonus has been, some of the blame for this still falls on Jaine. I mean, the woman put out on the first date, without taking any precautions. And it wasn't really a date. Sheesh. Did she expect him to propose to her after one day? Youth is no excuse for stupidity, especially if said youth is entrusted with leading a rebellion.

She should take responsibility for her actions and accept the concequences.

Not to say that Archon didn't handle the situation poorly.

 

[Xath]

The more complicated the lie, the easier it is to trip ourselves up in it. And we don't want a nation based on deceit. That's what we're fighting against.