OOC Kingdom of Ashes V - Brood city, baby!

[The_Universe]

i'm on the boards too, but mostly in a supportive, "Go get'em team!" sort of way.

mik

Constructive input is always appreciated. For reasons that should be obvious, I can no longer provide XP incentives for it, but doing some critical thinking and preparation now (even if it is contrary to the current trend of events) is better than doing it the day before we play. If you're going to dissent, do it now, for God's sake!

 

[The_Universe]

What we are going to present also depends on when and how we are going to present it, though... which is why we need to know what "road" we are going to take in our "official" presentation.

But, as much as I want to get everything penned out right now, it looks like we are the only two on the boards... so, I can talk all I want, but nothing'll get figured out.

Right. Better to take care of the substantive stuff now, as I said.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

i'm on the boards too, but mostly in a supportive, "Go get'em team!" sort of way.

mik

Well, if you're here-- please, look at the options I presented about *how* we want to go about chatting with Big Blue and vote or offer a better plan!

 

[Laurel]

On boards just not this thread.....

In short our presentation options are:
(1) Us first and take the middle road.
(2) Us first and take the extreme road.
(3) Him first and take the middle road.
(4) Him first and take the extreme road.
What do we think, kiddies?

I'll start here:
Whatever we place on the table, he will want to go down from there. Starting with the extreme and backing off always gives that slight looka nd feel of see aren't I nice look at the bargain I'm givin ya. When bartering in Mexico they may start at 10 american dollars for something, but quickly it drops to 2 american dollars.

We can not say which way he will go, but so far he's been a smart cookie. I think him going first can give us an advantage. It shows we are willing to listen, and we aren't going to rush into anything. He doesn't know what we are willing to put on the table, so before we start offering anything it may be good to see what he is *actually* looking for and minimum willing to give up (if anything).
Even start by, "We called this meeting, but we want to hear your ideas first" somehting along those lines.

 

[Laurel]

Land Options - something we give:
(1) We give him what he takes - bad idea.
(2) We give him a certain percentage of what he takes - possibility.
(3) We offer him a specific chunk now, he gets it when we win - possibility.

1- since the fighting is for and around the ringed continent bad idea. We would be left with almost nothing.
2- Since we will both be fighting this could work. Would give encouragement for him to fight for more area. Taking it beyond the ringed continent.
3- I like this the best. The fighting is only done when all Tain's baddies are gone (has to be stipulated somewhere, somehow) This way we know what each are getting specifically.
adding another option- 4- ringed continent stays ours. North stays his. We split the west lands. Master Ryoko may not be thrilled, but currently it's all going to Jaine anyways.

Wizardry - something we give:
(1) He can establish his own school of Wizardry that our students can study at.
(2) We allow his students to study at our school of Wizardry.
*These are both possible.

Why not agree to have two. One in our kingdom and one in his, a free flow of ideas. No sense in allowing only him to warp all those young bluemage minds. But it would let him spread his knowledge and teachings. Gain some of those voluntary memebers (hopefully, not many but people have free will)

Army Options - something he looses:
(1) He must, over the next so many years (say 75-100) re-deadify all of his undead soliders and replace them with voluntary/merc armies - in a perfect world, this would be the solution... but, probably not going to get him to bite.
(2) No undead in new lands (south of the wall) - possibility.
(3) No new undead may be created - not incredibly likely... but, it would be nice.

1- would be nice and we should start there with this one. Who knows he may take it.
2- again would be nice and should be brought up if he says no to 1.
3- No undead against will? Not sure how to inforce this though. Basically he can deadify his whole counrty if he wants, since he has been North for a long time and hasn't turned all of them I doubt he would once free either. If we hear word of him deadifying any of our people who travel North it is an act of war. The undead stay to his territories, and any movement outside will be as him moving his army south and thus an act of war.

Just my thought so far though.....

 

[The_Universe]

Thanks for the comments, Kat. Others?

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Question-- is Master R's land in the West actually going to the Phoenix throne if it is freed from the draconids? Or is it going *back* to Master R and his people?

 

[The_Universe]

Question-- is Master R's land in the West actually going to the Phoenix throne if it is freed from the draconids? Or is it going *back* to Master R and his people?

I don't believe that this has even really been mentioned before now. I think you've got your hands full with the Great Ring. I recommend that you leave the mysterious West for another generation.

If you ask Emperor Ryoko, he'll tell you that for all intents and purposes, his land is totally lost. It's all draconids and undead, now.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

I don't believe that this has even really been mentioned before now. I think you've got your hands full with the Great Ring. I recommend that you leave the mysterious West for another generation.

If you ask Emperor Ryoko, he'll tell you that for all intents and purposes, his land is totally lost. It's all draconids and undead, now.

If it were suggested and attempts were going to be made to take it back, it should go to Master R, anyway... at least, that's what Justice thinks.

 

[Xath]

I don't believe that this has even really been mentioned before now. I think you've got your hands full with the Great Ring. I recommend that you leave the mysterious West for another generation.

So...you're saying your next Aeres campaign will be OA?