[OT] Attorneys on the EnWorld boards

[ruleslawyer]

Certainly have heard of Boyle, or at least I've read enough law journal articles by him. Where's he teaching these days, then?

Ah, see, unfortunately I'm not working for my old firm (Sullivan and Cromwell) anymore. Currently, I'm actually writing proposals for some alternative energy projects on behalf of UNCTAD and some foundations. However, I'd be happy to put your friend in touch with folks whom I know at S&C and at other firms here. If she'd like to e-mail me, have her drop me a line at mayur@walrus.com .

 

[JPL]

Certainly have heard of Boyle, or at least I've read enough law journal articles by him. Where's he teaching these days, then?

Ah, see, unfortunately I'm not working for my old firm (Sullivan and Cromwell) anymore. Currently, I'm actually writing proposals for some alternative energy projects on behalf of UNCTAD and some foundations. However, I'd be happy to put your friend in touch with folks whom I know at S&C and at other firms here. If she'd like to e-mail me, have her drop me a line at mayur@walrus.com .

Boyle is at University of Illinois --- Champaign/Urbana. Mad as a hatter.

Many thanks,Ruleslawyer. I'll pass that info along to my school chum...though I may have a hard time explaining that I'm helping her network via the d20 boards...

 

[Tzarevitch]

law grad who figured out about year 1.5 of law school that he didn't want to be a lawyer, but figured the degree mightly look sparkly, or at least more sparkly than going 50,000 in debt without the degree. So now I'm 100,000+ in debt with the degree and I'm trying to figure out what the heck I should do that doesn't involve being a lawyer. But let me tell you that was one of the best 3 year 100,000$ vacations I ever had.

Brother I feel your pain. I too finished law school and then discovered that the law sucks and the debt sucks even more. (Wecome to a home mortgage without the home.)

I plan on taking the bar in February thereby putting myself in legal and financial indentured servitute to the bar association (please excuse the bitterness) more so I can finish out the process than out of any desire to take it. I look back fondly on the people I met in law school, but I don't recommend the experience to anyone.

Tzarevitch

 

[Tzarevitch]

My school councelor is about worthless... no... she is worthless... she can't tell me what will happen if I get a bachelor's in computer science, work off my school loans, and then apply to law school...

All I want to know, is would I be wasting time to be getting a computer science degree first? One person told me that it's fine, and all I need to do is get a good score on some national test and have a bachelors, then it should only take another 5 years or so to get my law degree... I want to work in the computer industry, just not retire in it, and I plan to go back to school after I become an outdated idiot about computers... to go to law school...

Since I should be less... ridled with nonsense when I'm 30.

Get the computer science degree first! I mean it.

With that degree and a JD you can go into intellectual property law and make a killing. That is about the only branch of the law where the $ is these days. It is boring work but it pays.

Tzarevitch

 

[Incenjucar]

Wow.

Suffice to say, if anyone ever tries to wholesale sue every roleplaying company out of business to try and eliminate the game from the world...

Pro bono, anyone?

I wonder what the ratios are with D&D and future employment with other jobs...

 

[kalthak]

why IP law?

Since I've seen several people mention it already, I may as well ask..

What's so great about Intellectual Property law?

As a recently graduated engineering student still trying to figure out what he wants to do with his life, every time I mention to someone I'm considering law school, IP law is always the first thing out of their mouth.

Thanks,

k.

 

[Scytax Killbane]

Get the computer science degree first! I mean it.

With that degree and a JD you can go into intellectual property law and make a killing. That is about the only branch of the law where the $ is these days. It is boring work but it pays.

Tzarevitch

I have to disagree here, I work in a litigation boutique and the money is quite good, well good enough to buy all those spanky & expensive new Wotc D&D books...

 

[Mort]

Re: why IP law?

Since I've seen several people mention it already, I may as well ask..

What's so great about Intellectual Property law?

As a recently graduated engineering student still trying to figure out what he wants to do with his life, every time I mention to someone I'm considering law school, IP law is always the first thing out of their mouth.

Thanks,

k.

Because patent law (not all IP law) essentially requires an engineering or science degree (if science generally though not always a PHD) there is a much more limited pool of lawyers who qualify. As such, they are generally among the highest paid attorneys – at least starting out.

One thing to consider, however (and a mistake a lot of people make) is that Patent law is not engineering or science lab work. Just because you like engineering or scientific research does not mean you will like patent law.

 

[bmcdaniel]

Creamsteak-

I've got a bachelor's in Computer Science and subsequent law degree. The bachelor's won't help you much (like others have said, all you need to get into law school is a good LSAT and a good GPA), but it will allow you to practice patent law (essentially you can't be a patent attorney otherwise).

That was my original plan, but I actually switched to corporate law, and even though my clients are Silicon Valley start-ups, my computer science background hasn't helped much.

-Brian McDaniel

 

[Creamsteak]

Creamsteak-

I've got a bachelor's in Computer Science and subsequent law degree. The bachelor's won't help you much (like others have said, all you need to get into law school is a good LSAT and a good GPA), but it will allow you to practice patent law (essentially you can't be a patent attorney otherwise).

That was my original plan, but I actually switched to corporate law, and even though my clients are Silicon Valley start-ups, my computer science background hasn't helped much.

-Brian McDaniel

Wow, every day I see some more useful information. I'm only quoting this last post because my reply to all of the above posts is pretty simple: Thank you.

Here's what I'm currently influenced to do:
Get a Bachelors in Computer Science (Liberal Arts versus Industrial Technologies?)

Get a long-term job. If I get into a job involving Video Game Design while I'm young, I'll ride that boat for sure, but otherwise I'll be working to try and earn security.

But when my knowledge starts to wain, I get bored of the material, or I simply decide it's time, I think I'll want to go back to school. Probably law school. Actually I'm interested in intellectual properties because that's something that interests me now, so it could be an option.

Though the only part I can confirm is that I'm going for computer science next year (either from the college of liberal arts, or the department of industrial techknowledges... not sure which). I "think" I'll enjoy it, at least now. The rest is just fickle concepts I'm considering.

EN World - It's good for everything.