Paladins and alignment

[Dormain1]

Originally Posted by Khuxan

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Originally Posted by Lurks-no-More
The only thing I'm having a bit of a problem with are the (potential) unaligned paladins. That just seems wrong to me, honestly. A paladin should be someone with strong beliefs, be they good or evil.

What if a paladin has strong beliefs about something other than Good or Evil?

"I don't care what you believe in, just believe in it"
Book so had it right

I would hope that Paladins still have some type of code but that is just flavour and does not need any mechanic, otherwise bring back the Cavilier we need our Chivalry

 

[Dormain1]

Originally Posted by Fallen Seraph
Or is a disenchanted Paladin who has given up what strong convictions he had, but the God still bequests him with powers because it senses something unique in this Paladin. It is quite fun playing a Paladin that gets drunk, lazy, gets into bar brawls, doesn't take care of his armour, etc.

They are called Fallen Paladins, who's been playing RttToEE?

sorry for the double

 

[Fallen Seraph]

They are called Fallen Paladins, who's been playing RttToEE?

Problem with Fallen Paladins... If your referring to what I think you are, is they loose their powers. With this, still got it and are still Paladins, just one without a code.

I've actually never played RttToEE, just always proffered these type of Paladin PCs... Which is especially true given so many ordinary Paladins in the worlds I play are very Inquisition-esque.

 

[Dormain1]

A Paladin can be fallen but still have the backing of their god, the Paladin may think their god had abandoned them but they really haven't and give paladins the opertunity(sp) to find themselves

the 3E fallen or ex paladin or paladin who has violated their gods beliefs is another thing entirely

and if your a Paladin who follows their own beliefs then they are a knight

 

[MyISPHatesENWorld]

Or is a disenchanted Paladin who has given up what strong convictions he had, but the God still bequests him with powers because it senses something unique in this Paladin. It is quite fun playing a Paladin that gets drunk, lazy, gets into bar brawls, doesn't take care of his armour, etc.

Or the paladin that never had strong convictions, but the god bequests him with powers because there aren't all that many people running around with epic destinies so the god had to take what he could get... Nothing like a deity storming around the heavens shouting, "He did what? Again? In my name? $#*@!!!!"

 

[Family]

Or the paladin that never had strong convictions, but the god bequests him with powers because there aren't all that many people running around with epic destinies so the god had to take what he could get... Nothing like a deity storming around the heavens shouting, "He did what? Again? In my name? $#*@!!!!"

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=227097 <---good example.

 

[Pale Jackal]

If you wanted to be the awesome champion of Lathander, why would you go paladin and not his specific Morninglord?

Because I don't feel like making prestige classes (or buying them) for every god.

That's the entire reason the class exists, to serve as the champions of Lawful Good. You get rid of that, why bother keeping the class.

Because people like the "holy warrior" concept, especially since there's a focus on clerics being a bit more like ranged/cloth casters in 4E.

This is a good change, for reasons other posters have already pointed out.