Phantom Meanace DvD

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Sure?

There was a star wars collection of short stories that had the background of the patrons of the cantinia in the first movie. My memory isn't so hot on this, but I thought Greedo came to Tattooine as a youth?

Those Tales of... books are pretty much full of stuff that's been written over even before Lucas did the prequels. Fun stories, but never really got a hold as any kind of canon.

Well, one thing is clear at least. I have no life.

Ha! You want to know what's really, really sad?

That passage you posted...I knew it already, and straight down to the names, too. I have no life.

 

[satori01]

I thought the documentary gave a great insight into George's attempt to recreate Star Wars films after so much time had passed. Rather than working in the moment, Gerorge is often times heard saying to speed things up, and use this type of wipe, and so on and so forth because the OT did that. George was painting by numbers in effect.

The pod race scene screening was a perfect example. After hearing time and time again how everyone thought the sequence was rushed, and George telling them it would be fine, upon viewing Gerorge pretty much said "I think you guys were right, that felt rushed". Of course it was too late to really do anything about that.

Overall a very intresting view into the creative process of the movie, and not always a complimentry view at that.

 

[RangerWickett]

I say Padme should have been a Jedi.

 

[Flyspeck23]

Lucas's decision making wasn't the problem. It was his horrible writing and direction. Frankly, once they started using TPM's godawful script, very little could have saved the movie. The bad casting certainly didn't help, but the real fault with the movie was the cringe-worthy dialogue, the complete lack of humor (one of the greatest strengths of the original trilogy), the terrible character development, and the lack of meaningful dramatic conflict and resolution (such as the big battle being resolved by a slapstick accident. "oops").

The prequels have no humor, but they got slapstick?

 

[mojo1701]

The prequels have no humor, but they got slapstick?

[sarcasm/referencing Rob Schneider films] Yes, because we all know that stupidity isn't funny [/sarcasm]

 

[Mouseferatu]

[sarcasm/referencing Rob Schneider films] Yes, because we all know that stupidity isn't funny [/sarcasm]

...

Not entirely sure what you're getting at, but Rob Schneider has never, in his life, been anywhere near anything that was remotely funny.

To say nothing of the fact that while slapstick has its place, it's not the sort of humor that Star Wars really needed.

 

[Warrior Poet]

Overall a very intresting view into the creative process of the movie, and not always a complimentry view at that.

The most telling thing for me was the interaction between Lucas and Frank Oz (who does Yoda's voice, and did his puppeteering in the original films). Frank's watching the rushes of the new CGI Yoda. It's obviously very detailed, very good, and can move in ways that the puppet couldn't.

Frank says, "Wow, George, you don't need me."

Pause.

Lucas says, "We'll always need you, Frank."

But he doesn't sound like he's so sure, and he doesn't sound like he's happy about the fact that he's not so sure, and maybe doesn't sound like he's happy that his "baby" (CGI) has maybe taken on an aspect that could negatively affect some people he holds dear.

Warrior Poet

 

[Welverin]

The fact that the Emperor was behind the faction that made multiple attempts to kill Padme didn't seem to change Anakin's decision. :\ I think Anakin killing Maul instead of Dooku would have made the movies stronger. You have to remember that Anakin didn't see Qui-Gon die, and many years had passed since the few days he ever knew Qui-Gon as a 10 year old child. I still think Qui-Gon's death was traumatic to him, but Padme was far more important to him than any jedi.

I think the greatest significance of Qui-Gon's death was the loss of a teacher who could have properly trained Anakin.

Of all the jedi we see, he was the one best equipped to deal with Anakin's unique problems (unique for a jedi that is).

I tought there something wrong the first time i watched the movie. I agree with you. For me it's a great editing mistake

Worst part is George's explaination was that it was already established they were being followed, which is true, but it hadn't been established the characters knew.

Ultimately not terribly important, but I would rather have had that than the Coruscant flyby or more podracing.

But he doesn't sound like he's so sure, and he doesn't sound like he's happy about the fact that he's not so sure, and maybe doesn't sound like he's happy that his "baby" (CGI) has maybe taken on an aspect that could negatively affect some people he holds dear.

Well he does the voice, so they definitely need him. And while can't speak specifically to Frank and Yoda, I know with Jar-Jar they used Ahmed's performance for the cg, the same was true for Andy Serkis as Golem and Kong. Even though Frank was controling a puppet, his input is still important on how Yoda acts.

 

[Warrior Poet]

Well he does the voice, so they definitely need him. And while can't speak specifically to Frank and Yoda, I know with Jar-Jar they used Ahmed's performance for the cg, the same was true for Andy Serkis as Golem and Kong. Even though Frank was controling a puppet, his input is still important on how Yoda acts.

I think the implication, though, is how the progression of technology is developing, potentially, to the point where they wouldn't need him. It seems to me that George has a moment where he's laboring with the larger idea of what CGI and digital effects can mean for the human element in a film, not so much what it means for his immediate relationship with the reliable, known quantity of his friend in one particular role (though I do think that personalizes, and highlights, his reflection). It's sort of a "This is great, we've found a way to harvest dinosaur DNA, combine them with amphibian DNA, and grow real dinosaurs for a modern day theme park! Wait, what do you mean they're not docile and are potentially dangerous?" situation.

Warrior Poet

 

[CrusaderX]

I watched the film again tonight, and have a question. After Qui-Gon and the gang land on Tatooine, he repeatedly tells everyone not to send a transmission back to Naboo, or they'll be traced. A few scenes later, Sidious and Maul say that the Queen has been traced to Tatooine. How did they know the Queen was on Tatooine?