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I wouldn't be too shocked if Arcane is the only power source that does get all roles filled (at least by WotC); it's certainly the only one that has had classes for every role in print (the Swordmage preview for LFR covers defender; the Artificer preview in Dragon covers Leader). Divine probably will, but it's easy to see everything else being 'incomplete' in the eyes of those who like to fill out the grid.
Psionics has had a class of every role back in 3.5e, and chances are that it's probably Bruce Cordell who designed those classes in 3e will be designing them again in 4e.
 

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Psionics has had a class of every role back in 3.5e, and chances are that it's probably Bruce Cordell who designed those classes in 3e will be designing them again in 4e.

... but the psuedo-leader (ardent) was half-divine anyway and had all the flavor of a stale cracker. And the defenders were either very similar to existing ones (psychic warrior vs. swordmage or paladin) or half-divine (divine mind).
 

And for those people on the fence, "You have better options to play all your old favorites" sound better then "Hey, look at this random new class you don't give two craps about"

A few of them might be considered old favorites but some of them are also old options I didn't give two craps about then and no reason to think I will now. At least with new material I have the hope I will like it. :D
 

... but the psuedo-leader (ardent) was half-divine anyway and had all the flavor of a stale cracker. And the defenders were either very similar to existing ones (psychic warrior vs. swordmage or paladin) or half-divine (divine mind).
I actually think that there is room for the Psychic warrior. Namely: Body augmentation. The druid may get "Change into an animal", but I'd like to see the Psychic warrior do some freaky stuff like turning his flesh to chitin to absorb blows, lengthening his arms for reach, setting himself on fire (so anyone who does damage to him takes fire damage), and other very radical things.

Also, I think The Society Mind is the quintessential Psionic Leader.
 

I actually think that there is room for the Psychic warrior. Namely: Body augmentation. The druid may get "Change into an animal", but I'd like to see the Psychic warrior do some freaky stuff like turning his flesh to chitin to absorb blows, lengthening his arms for reach, setting himself on fire (so anyone who does damage to him takes fire damage), and other very radical things.

Also, I think The Society Mind is the quintessential Psionic Leader.
The Psychic Warrior will likely have a bunch of psychic augmentation powers, but they had plenty of clairsentience/divination powers that simply made them better at fighting, and some psychokinetic powers that enhanced effects.

There won't be a society mind, simply because that class was never designed by WotC or by Cordell. Perhaps parts of that class might exist in the new Ardent (or inspire the new Ardent), which will then beat up the Divine Mind (which got separated from the Ardent in the first place) and take it's stuff and steal a couple of telepathy powers while it's at it. And with the new Ardent, I think it's obvious they'll strip out the divine stuff, since when it was designed it was during a time when they were adamant that only divine powers could heal.
 

There won't be a society mind, simply because that class was never designed by WotC or by Cordell. Perhaps parts of that class might exist in the new Ardent (or inspire the new Ardent), which will then beat up the Divine Mind (which got separated from the Ardent in the first place) and take it's stuff and steal a couple of telepathy powers while it's at it. And with the new Ardent, I think it's obvious they'll strip out the divine stuff, since when it was designed it was during a time when they were adamant that only divine powers could heal.

The psionic leader would probably be dealing with bio-feedback, taking others wounds (wound transferrence has always been with psionics), and possibly vampiric effects (Deal damage to enemy, gain temp HP). Also, it would be interesting it if, say, the Leader would point at the fighter and say "You, spend a healing surge, to give the healing value to the wizard over there!"

I also wouldn't be surprised if the Psionic leader had some of those body augmenting effects as buffs.
 

The psionic leader would probably be dealing with bio-feedback, taking others wounds (wound transferrence has always been with psionics), and possibly vampiric effects (Deal damage to enemy, gain temp HP). Also, it would be interesting it if, say, the Leader would point at the fighter and say "You, spend a healing surge, to give the healing value to the wizard over there!"

I also wouldn't be surprised if the Psionic leader had some of those body augmenting effects as buffs.
It certainly wouldn't surprise me if they did. The Ardent was a really hard class to pin down from 3.5e, so the 4e version won't be very much like the 3e version, though I'm sure they'll get something similar to the Auras of the Divine Mind. Though they probably won't be always on abilities with about 5 to choose from, like 3.5e. Possibly something closer to the Warlord's presence abilities.

Even though out of all the possible auras a divine mind did get, I felt that the communication mantle aura (telepathic communication while in aura) felt the 'most psionic' to me. And for any class that is a psionic leader, they'll probably get that ability automatically, since that isn't too combat effective, but happens to be something that's quite strong for the flavour.

I could see abilities that cause enemies "psychic feedback" whenever they attack allies. Most of the aura abilities of the divine mind are likely to become powers. I see plenty of psychic shields and barrier abilities as immediate interrupts for utility powers.
 


30 people screaming on the net is not a huge demand. And psionics and the monk have always has as many haters as lovers but I imagine we will still see them. By giving us things we already have they are not doing a great job of showing what the game can do. That's what I want to see.

A huge demand and a lot of haters are also not mutually exclusive.
 


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