Picard Season 3

[ART!]

Also, real captains don't demand loyalty, they inspire it.

Whatever it is, it's nice to see someone who truly enjoys their work.

Based on the history of Starfleet captains we've seen in all the shows and movies, most of them are people I'd never want to serve under. I get that part of the function of cameo and guest character captains is to make the show's captain look good, but yeesh.

 

[Vael]

Well, one of the problems is we rarely see Captains that aren't either the protagonist or the antagonist, so we get such a narrow view of them.

 

[Ryujin]

Well, one of the problems is we rarely see Captains that aren't either the protagonist or the antagonist, so we get such a narrow view of them.

We do occasionally get to see them when things have gone terribly wrong for them.

 

[Vael]

We do occasionally get to see them when things have gone terribly wrong for them.

Right, so Pro/An tagonist or Victim

 

[Stalker0]

So interestingly enough. Shaw becomes the least likeable to me right after he saves Picard, because of why he did it. Seven gets him in the ego, telling him how he’ll be remembered.

Up until that moment, you could disagree with Shaw but his point was reasonable. But after that, he went after them because of pure ego

 

[MarkB]

So interestingly enough. Shaw becomes the least likeable to me right after he saves Picard, because of why he did it. Seven gets him in the ego, telling him how he’ll be remembered.

Up until that moment, you could disagree with Shaw but his point was reasonable. But after that, he went after them because of pure ego

And/or fear - realising how it'd affect his career letting two of Starfleet's most decorated officers die on his watch.

 

[Stalker0]

Spoiler

so the idea that jack is Picards son has a few interesting ramifications, the biggest one being:

I would imagine birth control in the future to be darn near well perfect. So likely Beverly chose not to use them. Does that mean she intentionally tried to have a kid with Picard, or maybe they were trying to have one together at some point?

In some ways the second one makes even more sense. At some point they could likely make a vesectamy so quick and painless that a guy could literally just turn that off and turn back on again when he wanted children. So again suggesting perhaps they were trying somehow

 

[ART!]

Spoiler

so the idea that jack is Picards son has a few interesting ramifications, the biggest one being:

I would imagine birth control in the future to be darn near well perfect. So likely Beverly chose not to use them. Does that mean she intentionally tried to have a kid with Picard, or maybe they were trying to have one together at some point?

In some ways the second one makes even more sense. At some point they could likely make a vesectamy so quick and painless that a guy could literally just turn that off and turn back on again when he wanted children. So again suggesting perhaps they were trying somehow

Interesting!

That also suggests that, some time afterwards, they either had a falling out, or circumstances dictated they needed to be apart from each other.

I kind of doubt we'll get that much complexity to it.

 

[MarkB]

Spoiler

so the idea that jack is Picards son has a few interesting ramifications, the biggest one being:

I would imagine birth control in the future to be darn near well perfect. So likely Beverly chose not to use them. Does that mean she intentionally tried to have a kid with Picard, or maybe they were trying to have one together at some point?

In some ways the second one makes even more sense. At some point they could likely make a vesectamy so quick and painless that a guy could literally just turn that off and turn back on again when he wanted children. So again suggesting perhaps they were trying somehow

The mechanics and logistics of it bother me less than the intent and decisions. Why would Beverley secretly have Picard's child and not tell him? This isn't some brief affair like Kirk and Carol Marcus, Jean-Luc and Beverley were close friends with a very long history together. If we assume that the character is younger than the actor and Beverley conceived sometime shortly before cutting ties with everyone else, what drove her away?

And that's the best case. If Jack is older, if Beverley had him while still serving aboard the Enterprise (D or E), that means she left him to grow up with someone else, and that only raises more questions.

 

[bloodtide]

And that's the best case. If Jack is older, if Beverley had him while still serving aboard the Enterprise (D or E), that means she left him to grow up with someone else, and that only raises more questions.

That whole time like is just a huge problem. Picard and Crusher were not "close" yet in season one. But season two with no Crusher is the best spot for her to get pregnant and have the baby. but then somehow the two of them would have had to have sex....and keep it from the crew? Then immediately afterwards Beverly goes to Starfleet Medical? She has the baby, hides it, and...well, drops it off somewhere? Then goes back to the Enterprise for season 3 like "nothing happened. But then she does not see her kid for 5-10 years? Unless she sneaks off to a "medical conformance" every couple of weeks.

Did Picard and Crusher hook up say after the Insurrection movie? And again Crusher gets pregnant, hides it, and runs?