Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Scribe]

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[prabe]

Well, that is two ungreat tastes that go ungreat together.

 

[TiQuinn]

Worth it.

 

[CleverNickName]

I don't want to alarm the purists, but:

Is there no such thing as Italian cuisine?

Italian cuisine may be one of the most recognised and loved in the world. But now, a food historian is arguing that the Italian food as we know it is barely a few decades old.

www.bbc.com

 

[dragoner]

Been argued for a long time

 

[Cadence]

I don't want to alarm the purists, but:

Is there no such thing as Italian cuisine?

Italian cuisine may be one of the most recognised and loved in the world. But now, a food historian is arguing that the Italian food as we know it is barely a few decades old.

www.bbc.com

Some notes from the opposition

Italian Food Really Is Italian (with a Few Exceptions), Despite What Alberto Grandi Says

Dispatches from the World of Disinformation

artofeating.substack.com

 

[Bedrockgames]

Some notes from the opposition

Italian Food Really Is Italian (with a Few Exceptions), Despite What Alberto Grandi Says

Dispatches from the World of Disinformation

artofeating.substack.com

Lol. I have been watching youtube videos on these conversations

I don't worry too much about these kinds of details. What matters is how the food tastes and how it makes the people who make it and eat it feel. Having been to Italy, I'd say the food there is astounding. I also like Italian American cuisine because I grew up on it (my mother's grandparents came over from Sulmona and Sul Gizio in 1902 or so). And Italian American restaurant food is also its own thing and delicious. All three are different (a home cooked Italian American meal is very different from food at even a good Italian American Restaurant, and both those are different from restaurants in Italy and home cooked meals in Italy. But it is all good to me for different reasons. My favorite thing to eat was actually just some red sauce cooked for hours on the stove with chicken and pork in it (I used to scoop up cups of it and drink it when my mom made it I liked it so much). Pretty sure she used canned tomatoes. When I went to Italy it was a joy to discover the foods and coffee (I fell in the love with the cappuccino there, which was pretty no BS in my opinion). Some of the best pasta I had there just used olive oil and with some salt and a little fresh cheese. And the local pizza was really good, but while there I also found a little pizza place that served something that tasted a lot like a NY pizza to me (and it was good too).

 

[TiQuinn]

Some notes from the opposition

Italian Food Really Is Italian (with a Few Exceptions), Despite What Alberto Grandi Says

Dispatches from the World of Disinformation

artofeating.substack.com

I think what matters more is how each area creates or prefers food in different styles. There’s no doubt that pizza in NYC is different from pizza in Naples or Rome, but debates over who did it first always seem to be thinly disguised arguments of “whose version is better?”

 

[Autumnal]

And there’s often a subtext, sometimes very blatant, that because this dish or cuisine didn’t originate in the way a common misconception says, it’s bad and you shouldn’t like it. Whereas if it turned out that my favorite Mexican foods were all invented in the early 1970s by abusive interactions with the ELIZA program, I would go “well, huh, I’m gonna have to share that the next time we have these yummy foodstuffs”.

 

[overgeeked]

Today a young man on acid realized that cultures mix and mingle and put their own stamps on things as time and technology progress. Here’s Tom with the weather.