Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

Yes, the cringe is real. Either thinking about young people we've known, or ourselves as clueless youngsters.

I appreciate that by the end of the movie Tom's actually tried out Jane Austen and found he likes her.

I was just thinking about how formal and kind of unnatural the dialogue in the movie is, especially for folks of that age, but I can absolutely suspend my disbelief given my recollection of how I (and others) wanted to show off my vocabulary and knowledge whenever I could. I suspect part of my enjoyment of the dialogue springs from the same place as my enjoyment of Jack Vance's dialogue. Stillman isn't quite as funny as Vance can be, but he's pretty great.
Dialogue not feeling natural is imo a criticism that gets painted with too broad a brush. There are definitely movies/shows where it's a sign of bad writing (usually the ones where it doesn't seem like the writers were aware of it) but there's nothing wrong with choosing otherwise. Aaron Sorkin still gets work and no one talks like that in real life.
 

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Dialogue not feeling natural is imo a criticism that gets painted with too broad a brush. There are definitely movies/shows where it's a sign of bad writing (usually the ones where it doesn't seem like the writers were aware of it) but there's nothing wrong with choosing otherwise. Aaron Sorkin still gets work and no one talks like that in real life.
Yeah. And people really, really don't want dialog in movies or TV shows to match how real people in the real world actually speak. If you don't believe me, record a conversation. Wait a day or two, then play it back. Now transcribe the thing exactly as spoken, be sure to include all the UMs, UHs, awkward pauses, burps, farts, distractions, side conversations, remembered points from previous conversations, non sequiturs, etc. It usually only takes doing that once to disabuse people of the notion of realistic dialog.
 


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My uncles are both farmers and um, I've got some bad news for you: there's a lot of computers involved in agriculture nowadays. GPS-monitored tractors to delineate the fields, remote-operated irrigation pumps, solar data and soil moisture monitors...fertilizer dosing...water quality monitoring...
 

My uncles are both farmers and um, I've got some bad news for you: there's a lot of computers involved in agriculture nowadays. GPS-monitored tractors to delineate the fields, remote-operated irrigation pumps, solar data and soil moisture monitors...fertilizer dosing...water quality monitoring...
The idea that "farmer" is inherently something like "Old Order Amish" is obviously wrong and probably a problem.
 

Yeah. And people really, really don't want dialog in movies or TV shows to match how real people in the real world actually speak. If you don't believe me, record a conversation. Wait a day or two, then play it back. Now transcribe the thing exactly as spoken, be sure to include all the UMs, UHs, awkward pauses, burps, farts, distractions, side conversations, remembered points from previous conversations, non sequiturs, etc. It usually only takes doing that once to disabuse people of the notion of realistic dialog.
I'm not sure I'd go so far in this direction either. Noah Baumbach puts a lot of those into dialogue, and those movies generally work for me.
 

I'm not sure I'd go so far in this direction either. Noah Baumbach puts a lot of those into dialogue, and those movies generally work for me.
Sure. To each their own. I'd rather err on the side of unnatural but well-written dialog. The snappy patter of film noir and hard-boiled detective stories, for example. Maybe not everything like that all the time, but definitely on that end of the spectrum rather than the realistic end.
 


My uncles are both farmers and um, I've got some bad news for you: there's a lot of computers involved in agriculture nowadays. GPS-monitored tractors to delineate the fields, remote-operated irrigation pumps, solar data and soil moisture monitors...fertilizer dosing...water quality monitoring...
I'm pretty sure that in the background behind the guy is some sort of high tech machine but the sentiment of wanting to unplug and just walk away is one i've seen on here expressed by a few folks after working in tech
 

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