Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[DrunkonDuty]

Black and tan, haven't had one of them in many years. Mmmmm

 

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[Cadence]

I do! Lupulin shift is real!

I don't think my hop intake is anywhere close to getting me to a shift...

Stouts (many kinds, not usually Barrel Aged or Nitro), Porters, Hefe/Dunkel Weiss, and a few other random things [Pumpkin Ales, Lime Sours] are my usual, but I can enjoy a Modelo too.

 

[overgeeked]

I’ll take a half-decent cider over any beer. I’m still salty Woodchuck switched to cans from glass bottles.

 

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is there no fandom/hobby that doesn't have it's own snobs/"elitist"?

 

[Staffan]

I will never get the hardcore theorycrafters’ need to white room everything. And most of it is based on the worst possible reading of every edge case you can find. More and more I think of it like the soccer* players who’re trained to flop on the ground whenever another player comes within 10ft* of them. It’s just the worst kind of performative nonsense.

* Convert to football and meters as necessary.

When learning physics, it is common to have problems where you make various simplifying assumptions about the thing you're trying to calculate, such as approximating whatever you're trying to calculate as a point rather than whatever its actual shape and volume is, or ignoring air resistance/drag when calculating how quickly something falls. This is done so you can focus on whatever the problem is trying to teach, and often you will get fairly close to what the real-world solution would be.

White-rooming is kind of like that. You abstract away all the circumstances to get to the core of the issue. That is often practical, particularly when comparing two things. For example, circle of death hits all creatures within a 60-foot radius sphere, while fireball has a 20-foot radius instead. So as a first order of approximation, circle of death should hit about 9 times as many targets as fireball (3 times the radius, and square that for an area – we're ignoring height for the moment). That's the white-room comparison. But in an actual situation, it's pretty rare to be facing enemies that are so numerous and spread out that you get full benefit from the larger AOE. You might hit an extra target or two, but almost certainly not nine times as many. And in addition, the larger AOE can be a liability because it's hard to hit many enemies without hitting friends as well. And that's the kind of analysis that you generally don't get from white-rooming something.

 

[prabe]

is there no fandom/hobby that doesn't have it's own snobs/"elitist"?

There is not.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

There is not.

I have been in home tiki bar groups on Facebook where the moderators would kick people out of the group if the photos of their home tiki bars weren't sufficiently tiki enough for their tastes.

That said, the hot sauce community seems pretty chill, not shaming people for asking basic questions or being excited about pretty ordinary store-bought hot sauces they've just discovered, even if the hardcore folks are growing their own peppers and bottling their own sauces.

 

[prabe]

I have been in home tiki bar groups on Facebook where the moderators would kick people out of the group if the photos of their home tiki bars weren't sufficiently tiki enough for their tastes.

That said, the hot sauce community seems pretty chill, not shaming people for asking basic questions or being excited about pretty ordinary store-bought hot sauces they've just discovered, even if the hardcore folks are growing their own peppers and bottling their own sauces.

I am genuinely happy there's a community that proves me wrong, and I sincerely hope it continues to do so.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I am genuinely happy there's a community that proves me wrong, and I sincerely hope it continues to do so.

Your earlier statement seems correct 99.99% of the time, for sure.