Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Reynard]

It definitely has its perks for publishers shipping physical products. Unsold inventory is a killer and publishers need some way to know how many copies to print whether it be through KS or subscriptions like Paizo has.

Generally I would be curious if there’s a reason publishers that largely sell PDFs that are mostly done by the end of the KS campaign wouldn’t be better off going the patreon route like @Whizbang Dustyboots suggested. I am incredibly ignorant to the realities of publishing so I am sure there are plenty of reasons. I know I am more likely to say “sure, I’ll throw $10 at that campaign” vs. a $5 monthly patreon subscription where I don’t really know what I will get month to month.

@Morrus has said many times on this board the KS is absolutely essential to the success of books in the modern TTRPG marketplace and I am inclined to believe him.

 

[Cadence]

I honestly feel like I'm missing something.

But of all the pointless debates, arguing about what a corporation chooses to call a revision to their product seem more pointless than the communal crayon box in a kindergarten.

Imagining someone seriously trying to tell a kindergarten teacher that the brand of crayons the parents buy doesn't matter ... (I am led to believe every year by those teachers in FB that Crayola is the only answer).

 

[Velderan]

@Morrus has said many times on this board the KS is absolutely essential to the success of books in the modern TTRPG marketplace and I am inclined to believe him.

And that's why I said unsold inventory is a killer. KS helps mitigate that risk, but my previous post was about publishers who most of their business is PDFs.

 

[Umbran]

But then I realize, "People arguing over stupid stuff pays my bills."

People arguing over stupid stuff is just my hobby/passtime. People not being able to get their crap together pays my bills.

... not meeting deadlines of relatively simple tasks.

Like that right there.

 

[Umbran]

Except that Kickstarter was envisioned to "kick start" a business so that it could be self-sustainable, not keep going back to the well every time they have a new product.

Vision, meet Reality, and thier cousin, Unintended Consequences.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Except that Kickstarter was envisioned to "kick start" a business so that it could be self-sustainable, not keep going back to the well every time they have a new product.

Again, this is why I keep proposing a new crowd-sourced fund raising tool for just this sort of occasion, and all the other ones we keep seeing!

GoFundYourself.

Aka, Go Eff Yourself.

 

[Ryujin]

@Morrus has said many times on this board the KS is absolutely essential to the success of books in the modern TTRPG marketplace and I am inclined to believe him.

There's a definite advantage in knowing your budget will be met, as opposed to the month to month variations from Patreon. And, heaven forbid that there's another apocalyptic incident like when moved to change how the funding formula worked, resulting in tons of patrons leaving the platform.

 

[Ryujin]

Vision, meet Reality, and thier cousin, Unintended Consequences.

Reality then resulting in various ways to game the system and people using the "unforeseen circumstances" clause to rip off supporters. One of them has multiple web pages dedicated to following his scams.

 

[Reynard]

There's a definite advantage in knowing your budget will be met, as opposed to the month to month variations from Patreon. And, heaven forbid that there's another apocalyptic incident like when moved to change how the funding formula worked, resulting in tons of patrons leaving the platform.

It isn't just that. A crowdfunding campaign doubles as a marketing campaign.

 

[Ryujin]

It isn't just that. A crowdfunding campaign doubles as a marketing campaign.

True, as long as you spend some money on the descriptive content or, perhaps, an introductory video. Too many just throw some crap up and say, "This is my idea. Give me money!", without clearly showing what they would be making.