Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

The cream always rises to the top. That's why we think that everything from 20-30 years ago was excellent and everything today is crap. There's always crap, but it's not memorable.
It also has to do with how music is consumed. When you had limited places to hear new music beyond what your parents were listening to or that one friend that always has something no radio would play, ever, then everyone had similar touchstones for music.

Now there are so many venues to experience music everything is so fractured and feels like it is "here today, gone tomorrow." When we finally move out of the '20s I really am curious as to what folks are going to say defined this current music era. That is a nerd war I do not want to participate in.
 

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It also has to do with how music is consumed. When you had limited places to hear new music beyond what your parents were listening to or that one friend that always has something no radio would play, ever, then everyone had similar touchstones for music.

Now there are so many venues to experience music everything is so fractured and feels like it is "here today, gone tomorrow." When we finally move out of the '20s I really am curious as to what folks are going to say defined this current music era. That is a nerd war I do not want to participate in.
I dont really see expanding the musical landscape as a bad thing. We no longer rely on physical media and taste-makers exclusively for music consumption. I cant remember the last time anybody went to war over who/what is the sound of the decade. It would be impossible; and that is such a great thing.
 

The cream always rises to the top. That's why we think that everything from 20-30 years ago was excellent and everything today is crap. There's always crap, but it's not memorable.

I don't think this is true. I also don't think everything today is crap or that the stuff 30 years ago was necessarily gold. But there are better and worse times and trends in music. Obviously it is subjective.

One thing I will say here is when people say "It was better back when" I get it. I understand if you did deeper as well there is often a lot more to that statement than simply comparing old music to new. It is also a timeless conflict: my whole life the previous generations never liked the newer generations music and it is understandable why as they grew up in an entirely different musical paradigm. My grandfather who grew up in the 30s isn't going to understand metallica or depeche mode. If you grew up listening to jazz and italian opera, that is going to be what you think makes for great music. And as technology changes our listening experiences, how music is produced, etc all these things change and affect our listening experience. Personally if you wanted to force me to commit to a decade I think has the best sound, it would be the 70s. And I really like the era of big, well produced albums. I can still like music from other decades. I don't like the sound of each decade equally though. Part of appreciating music is not being so closed minded you close yourself off to new musical experiences, but I think it is also okay and good for people to give their honest opinions (if someone thinks the Doors stink, that is fine by me, even I love the Doors: I get why not everyone does). That is just my subjective opinion, and I can totally respect a person who prefers today's music, or music from the 90s. To me everything is equally awesome and nothing gets better or worse is just as annoying as people being too narrow-minded
 

There is a huge signal to noise ratio right now when everything and everyone has access to music world wide. Ultimately, I think there is cream that has risen to the top. In the past 4 years I have discovered so many bands and music styles. Even more interesting is the genre blending that is going on.

In no particular order here are some of my highlights (all to my personal taste):

Heilung
Jinjer
Ren
Electric Callboy
Chinchilla
NF
Jungle
Fred Again
Harry Mack
Falling In Reverse
Chris Stapleton
Polyphia

Without YouTube I would not have likely discovered these artists.

There has been a number of recent bands I have liked, such as Khemmis (I really like their sound), and I have artists like Sa Dingding. There is also plenty of pop I have enjoyed like the Weeknd (I don't know his sound just lands with me for some reason). He isn't super new, as he is in his 50s, but Pongsit Khamphee is an amazing thai singer-songwriter who I would highly recommend (very emotive). I think he rivals Roy Orbison in terms of that ability to sing cathartically. Overall I find the Thai music scene very interesting.

The biggest hurdle for me when it comes new music is I don't like listening to music online. I do so, just like everyone does these days, but I really prefer having a physical CD, tape or record (it makes the experience feel less ephemeral; I appreciate the album and remember it more, whereas if I listen to it on youtube, it is like I hear it and vanishes into the ether). I am also not crazy about modern production methods, and I am not too keen on a lot of the guitar tone I hear (this is just preference, but I think I have a much older preference in terms of guitar tone). I am also getting very tired of people just blazing over scales and modes all the time. This doesn't happen in every genre of metal, and there are artists who can do it well. But I get sent a lot of new music from others to listen to and the fastest thing to turn me off is a prog metal solo that sounds like every other prog metal solo. Again that is just preference, not a statement about quality (in terms of musicianship, it takes a lot of talent to do the thing I am complaining about). Getting a good sound system is pretty hard, and even then a lot of music doesn't seem designed for a good sound system these days (I don't particularly like listening to music on my phone or through my computer speaker). There is also a kind of consensus opinion forming in places like youtube and on other online platforms among fans and influencers that I find a bit off-putting (for example people trying to say Jimi Hendrix sucked, wasn't that good or isn't a very important guitar player in the history of guitar and rock).

Negatives aside, there are some real advantages to what is going on in music now. Almost any album is at my finger tips. Before I would discover an artist and if I was lucky get my hands on a bit more of their discography (maybe if they were huge in their genre, their entire catalog would be at the record store). If I couldn't find it at the store, I had to go to catalogs (which still often had limitations). So there would be bands I heard every band I liked talking about, but it would take years to find and listen. Now I can just do a deep dive on any artist and genre. The bar to entry is also way lower, so more people can make music and get it out there (this I think is a good thing, despite my misgivings about how a lot of modern mixes sound). Musicianship is more accessible to more people. I don't think the greats of the past have been eclipsed or anything as there is more to musical greatness than pure technique, but if you want to learn an instrument there is so much more information available. I have been playing guitar since 89/90 and I find it very helpful to go over basic things I am not as educated on using youtube videos.
 

Ah. So you don't actually believe what you're saying. That's an easy ignore. Thanks.
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I do have to point out that an MP3 collection is no more or less physical than a tape or CD of music is. It might be less "official" but that's not the same thing.

I have been meaning to get another one for when I go running (phone is a little too clunky for this). I think this is a fair point. For me what makes the difference with CDs, tapes and records, and again this isn't about them being 'better' than newer forms of media, it is just more about my own personal feeling when I experience music through different mediums, is they help me have a physical point of reference. It is purely a product of how I grew up consuming music and movies, but having a DVD on the shelf or a CD, helps me remember it. And physically taking out the CD or DVD, putting it in the player, something about that tactile experience burns the memory in my mind of the view or listen. I have a similar response to physical books versus kindle (I do both but I always remember way more information if I am getting it from a physical book-----I also seem to enjoy the experience more).

An MP3 for me is somewhere between watching it on youtube and having the CD (I have an actual visual library of music I can reference on a device (similar to the music I have on my amazon app in my computer). I find that helpful for keeping mental track of the music I have been listening to
 

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