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Optimisers can be handled. I personally think one should do it by talking to the player. Like most (all) issues at the gaming table, talk it out as a group.

I see it as a matter of schtick protection. Player 1 wants to do X. Player 2 wants to do Y. So the group should try to make this happen.

Talk as a group. See what each player is keen to do. It may be that everyone has different schticks they want to do. In which case, no probs. More likely you'll have to balance a couple of people who want do the same thing. That's fine too. It can be worked out. Details will vary, obviously. It may require balancing the characters mechanically. It may be there are slight differences in method that allow for effectiveness in different areas.

Then, as GM, you need to run games that work toward your players' interests. It ain't rocket science, this is running games 101.
 

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Fine.

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in! Also, because as terrible as discussing Star Wars is, we seem dangerously close to an actual RPG discussion.

(The following list of all Star Wars stuff was determined by Colosson the Numberwang Robot and as the product of Maths cannot be argued with.)

1. Empire Strikes Back.
2. A New Hope
3. Andor (S1).
4. 3/4" Star Wars Action Figures
5. The Last Jedi.
4. Rogue One.
6. The Mandalorian.
7. Star Wars Bed Sheets. Search your feelings. You know this to be true.
8. Various animated Star Wars shows, such as Clone Wars, Bad Batch, and Rebels.
9. The Kenner Millennium Falcon. Would be higher, but Derek totally bogarted playing with it. DEREK!!!!
10. The Force Awakens. Needz moar lenz flarez.
11. Going to any Star Wars movie with a friend who keeps asking you if Yoda is related to Hulk. Because Green?
12. Return of the Jedi. Ain't no party like an Ewok party 'cuz an Ewok party can't stop. Yub nub, eee chop yub nub.
13. Ahsoka.
14. That recurring nightmare that George Lucas has invented time travel and is going to use it to improve Cinema by re-writing the dialogue of Casablanca and Glengarry Glen Ross and adding wipes for transitions in all Kubrick movies. Also? Walkie talkies make good blasters, amirite?
15. Revenge of the Sith.
16. Obi Wan. Perfectly cromulent. Filler, filler, filler, filler, BEN AND ANAKIN FIGHT, filler.
17. Reading Simon Pegg's statement that Star Wars has the most toxic fanbase and thinking ... eh, he's not wrong, but still feeling the need to write a 25,000 word rebuttal because nu-Scotty doesn't get to criticize Star Wars.
18. The Phantom Menace. Meesa like the prequels?
19. Solo (except Lando ... Lando is cool, and not even this movie can make Lando uncool).
20. Going into your attic and finding that all of your Star Wars collectibles that you never played with because of their value have melted in the latest heatwave into a large Jabba-like mass on top of your vintage Kenner X-Wing, and recognizing that this a metaphor for the loss of your childhood.
21. Caravan of Courage.
22. Realizing that not only is Disney recycling all the Star Wars characters you grew up with, but that the actors that played those characters are dying too, and that AI Princess Leia is just the abyss staring back at you.
23. Book of Boba Fett. Really, the story of Star Wars is taking an iconic and awesome mysterious bounty hunter and making him desperately uncool.
24. Battle of Endor.
25. Holiday Special. Cocaine is a helluva drug.
26. George Lucas’s proposed sequels about the midi-chlorians. Because that's the one part of Star Wars I really wanted to know more about. For whatever wrongs Disney has done, they didn't do this. Although I would pay to hear Weird Al do a version of, "It's all about the midi-chlorians."
27. Finally recognizing that a space opera that you enjoyed for a few years in your youth and still appreciate to this day is not only nothing more than more corporate IP that Disney is using to take over the world and everyone’s brains through a streaming service, but is also the breeding ground for a peculiar and nasty strain of nerd-rage with a side-dose of toxic masculinity that frightens the hell out of you- and trying to come to an understanding that Star Wars has always been primarily about and for young people, not you.
28. Attack of the Clones.

Holiday Special needs to be close to the top. Sure, at the time I could not see the... I'm gonna call it genius... that was this show. Now as an adult I can say that sometimes you just got to enjoy something for the terrible piece of art it is. Grab some beers, grab some mates, enjoy.

Caveat: one person's schlock glory is another's garbage fire. YMMV.
 

Holiday Special needs to be close to the top. Sure, at the time I could not see the... I'm gonna call it genius... that was this show. Now as an adult I can say that sometimes you just got to enjoy something for the terrible piece of art it is. Grab some beers, grab some mates, enjoy.

Caveat: one person's schlock glory is another's garbage fire. YMMV.
If Chewbacca's dad getting down to some VR porn of Diahann Carroll is wrong, I don't want to be right.
 



I need windshield wipers for my eyes.
I could wallpaper a room with the eyeball snot I'm constantly wiping out of them all day.

Yeah its the worst I've had it in a long long time, since I was landscaping for sure. A solid 3 weeks at this point. Is Kleenex publicly traded? I should have stock in them...
 

Metal lunch boxes are now banned in many states (starting with Florida in 1972). My kids' elementary school didn't even allow hard plastic lunch boxes. Have to be the soft, insulated fabric bags/boxes. Plastic thermoses were still allowed and I'm not sure why plastic boxes are worse. I'd rather be hit in the head with plastic lunch box than a thermos.
Must have travelled slow across the country, pretty sure all my lunchboxes were metal in the 80s
 

I have no problem with optimizers. It can be a lot of fun, especially when you ham it up in the game world, to have one extremely competent PC having to continually save the rest of the underoptimized, non-strategists, who keep getting themselves into trouble.

IME, there isn't an issue with optimization, just people who expect everyone to play to their expectations.

I am fine with optimizers too. I think the issue is more of what mix of expectations you have at the table and what campaign you want to run
 


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