Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Maxperson]

In other news, it's August 1, 2024, which means that it's time to get started on Christmas shopping, right?

it happens earlier every year
Any way, the one thing I live about about Christmas isn't family. Or presents. Or even the heavily spike egg nog.

ITS THE HALLMARK MOVIES!

That's right. I embrace the sheer diversity of Hallmark Christmas Movies!

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Sometime the guy is wearing green, and is on the left. And sometimes the woman is wearing red, and is on the left!

And sometimes the couple is wh... um. Nevermind.

Your powers of observation have failed you. What they are holding changes with each movie!

 

[Maxperson]

Page 37 is where the rules for druids not wearing metallic armor can be found. So, yeah...thirty-seven pages of "discussion" in a single day sounds about right to me.

Do they say what happens if a druid wears metal armor?

 

[Parmandur]

Nothing so weird as a long screed about people selling out, posted on a social media site by someone who paid a billionaire $8 to write longer posts

 

[Reynard]

Dude. I can't even imagine what being at your table is like, and I don't want to.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

 

[Scribe]

I dont know where to say this, because past threads for such a purpose have gone onto Valhalla.

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If the Warlock class actually had some meaning behind the Patron, I think it would be potentially my favourite class. Without that weight however, it just reeks of Mary Sue energy.

 

[overgeeked]

I dont know where to say this, because past threads for such a purpose have gone onto Valhalla.

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If the Warlock class actually had some meaning behind the Patron, I think it would be potentially my favourite class. Without that weight however, it just reeks of Mary Sue energy.

That's one of the many reasons I love Dungeon Crawl Classics RPG. Patrons actually mean something and there's a cost to gaining power.

 

[prabe]

I dont know where to say this, because past threads for such a purpose have gone onto Valhalla.

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If the Warlock class actually had some meaning behind the Patron, I think it would be potentially my favourite class. Without that weight however, it just reeks of Mary Sue energy.

I'm not arguing, but I think it's possible for the narrative of the class to carry at least some weight. That makes it a thing for the DM and players to do outside of the rules, but it's a thing they can do.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I'm not arguing, but I think it's possible for the narrative of the class to carry at least some weight. That makes it a thing for the DM and players to do outside of the rules, but it's a thing they can do.

Given the strong reaction some folks here have whenever one suggests that the patron is more than a line on a character sheet that can then be ignored, it feels very much like WotC was writing for the people with dysfunctional groups by not making activist patrons a thing.

But that just turns warlocks into weird superheroes and any suggestion that the DM actually do something with the fiction of the class, per some folks on the internet, is monstrous behavior.

I do think that warlocks are potentially a fascinating class -- Critical Role did good stuff with Jester and her patron in campaign two -- but unless the PHB explicitly supports doing so, I think the expectation in many groups is that the patron is about as relevant as alignment is today.

 

[prabe]

Given the strong reaction some folks here have whenever one suggests that the patron is more than a line on a character sheet that can then be ignored, it feels very much like WotC was writing for the people with dysfunctional groups by not making activist patrons a thing.

But that just turns warlocks into weird superheroes and any suggestion that the DM actually do something with the fiction of the class, per some folks on the internet, is monstrous behavior.

I do think that warlocks are potentially a fascinating class -- Critical Role did good stuff with Jester and her patron in campaign two -- but unless the PHB explicitly supports doing so, I think the expectation in many groups is that the patron is about as relevant as alignment is today.

I don't wildly disagree, that WotC have mostly written classes so the patron is just a source of power (in the same way as the paladin's oath is). I don't think it's awesome to have them be a perpetual Damoclesian threat in the same way alignment violations were for paladins in previous editions, but there should be some ... interaction, definitely, and tension here doesn't have to be bad.

(And I kinda gave up on alignment somewhere around the early 2000s, even in D&D, so I'm probably as usual in some weird middle space/no-man's land.)