Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I have recently discovered a whole bunch of artists whose target audience is young women in their 20s -- not me, clearly -- but it's shocking how well they really nail what that age is like. It was almost a full-body shock the first time I listened to them.

It'll be a while before they escape the "oh, they're just for kids" treatment by the general public, I suspect, but man, Jensen McRae, Gracie Abrams and (the most popular one on this list) Olivia Rodrigo can stand shoulder-to-shoulder with any songwriter of the past few decades.

But I think a lot of people who might really enjoy them just won't be exposed to them, since The Algorithm wants to only expose women between 14 and 24 to them, which is a shame.

 

[Bedrockgames]

My only problem with K-Pop is the same problem I had when Boy Bands and Girl Bands were huge: too much of it sounds the same.

But history is repeating- or at least rhyming with- itself again. Just like then, certain performers are starting to distinguish themselves from their bands and emerge as solo artists. Jungkook is currently following the same path as Justin Timberlake, Harry Styles and others had done before him, just as they themselves echoed Michael Jackson.

Boy bands were also impossible to avoid hearing if you lived in the states which made it even worse. Boy bands also had marketing that made them annoying to male audiences I think (they were generally targeting women and girls with those bands). I think in hindsight, one thing I appreciate about that era of pop music is it feels rather baroque influenced (and I notice that eras of pop which are baroque influenced tend to appeal to me more). With K pop, I tend not to feel as overwhelmed by it

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Unfortunately, @Dannyalcatraz must be severely punished.

He has violated Article 38 of the Shadow Proclamation: Jamiroquai shall be stuffed down the memory hole, and any who shall cause people to remember those events shall be met with extreme displeasure and the gnashing of teeth.

Snarf, you DO know Jay Kay isn’t wearing a moldy pineapple as a hat, right?

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Olivia Rodrigo can stand shoulder-to-shoulder with any songwriter of the past few decades.

Olivia Rodrigo is a definite talent. I like a lot of her stuff.

But I noticed that- thematically, at least- she’s a lot like an old delta bluesman. I’d say that 80% of her songs I’ve heard are about trouble she’s having with an ex or current partner.

 

[payn]

I have recently discovered a whole bunch of artists whose target audience is young women in their 20s -- not me, clearly -- but it's shocking how well they really nail what that age is like. It was almost a full-body shock the first time I listened to them.

It'll be a while before they escape the "oh, they're just for kids" treatment by the general public, I suspect, but man, Jensen McRae, Gracie Abrams and (the most popular one on this list) Olivia Rodrigo can stand shoulder-to-shoulder with any songwriter of the past few decades.

But I think a lot of people who might really enjoy them just won't be exposed to them, since The Algorithm wants to only expose women between 14 and 24 to them, which is a shame.

Which is why I stick to radio, particularly my local station. I am constantly exposed to new stuff and get the old classics too. St Vincent no longer in that young women's category I suppose, but man can she play guitar.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Olivia Rodrigo is a definite talent. I like a lot of her stuff.

But I noticed that- thematically, at least- she’s a lot like an old delta bluesman. I’d say that 80% of her songs I’ve heard are about trouble she’s having with an ex or current partner.

Yeah, I think once she gets a little older, she'll broaden out. I remember when Liz Phair -- another generational singer songwriter who broke big in the 1990s instead -- was all about boys and breakups.

 

[Thomas Shey]

There's tons of new music that's fun like this.

The big difficulty is getting out of the trap -- one created by brain chemistry in your mid-20s, in fact, so no blame on anyone for falling into this -- that all music created after you were 25 or so is not as good as what you listened to from ages 12-25 or so.

I was helped along here because I pretty well hated most popular music when I was in that age range; I like stuff both before and after that much better.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Snarf, you DO know Jay Kay isn’t wearing a moldy pineapple as a hat, right?

I cannot comment on that which must be passed over in silence. There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.

And when it comes to the perfidy of Jay Kay ...

 

[payn]

Yeah, I think once she gets a little older, she'll broaden out. I remember when Liz Phair -- another generational singer songwriter who broke big in the 1990s instead -- was all about boys and breakups.

Liz still is.

 

[trappedslider]

we should have a "mad at the the way the world currently works" thread, where its just one mega rant followed by every other post with a gif saying "same"