Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Bedrockgames]

You're not looking in the right places. The "song of the summer" discourse if omnipresent in too many areas I frequent online.

I heard a whole radio segment on this the other day

 

[trappedslider]

@Scribe I saw this and thought of you

 

[Scribe]

@Scribe I saw this and thought of you

Am I the Eagle, the Possum, or the carcass?

 

[trappedslider]

Am I the Eagle, the Possum, or the carcass?

yes.

 

[Thomas Shey]

I have been meaning to get another one for when I go running (phone is a little too clunky for this). I think this is a fair point. For me what makes the difference with CDs, tapes and records, and again this isn't about them being 'better' than newer forms of media, it is just more about my own personal feeling when I experience music through different mediums, is they help me have a physical point of reference. It is purely a product of how I grew up consuming music and movies, but having a DVD on the shelf or a CD, helps me remember it. And physically taking out the CD or DVD, putting it in the player, something about that tactile experience burns the memory in my mind of the view or listen. I have a similar response to physical books versus kindle (I do both but I always remember way more information if I am getting it from a physical book-----I also seem to enjoy the experience more).

An MP3 for me is somewhere between watching it on youtube and having the CD (I have an actual visual library of music I can reference on a device (similar to the music I have on my amazon app in my computer). I find that helpful for keeping mental track of the music I have been listening to

I prefer to keep digital media storage for the simple reason I never assume that online sources won't evaporate at some point (and recent events in the last few years have reinforced this). This is why though I have a lot of Kindle books they leave a bit of a bad taste in my mouth, because backing them up offline is just enough of a nuisance I can't work up the energy to do it.

 

[Bedrockgames]

I prefer to keep digital media storage for the simple reason I never assume that online sources won't evaporate at some point (and recent events in the last few years have reinforced this). This is why though I have a lot of Kindle books they leave a bit of a bad taste in my mouth, because backing them up offline is just enough of a nuisance I can't work up the energy to do it.

That is probably wise. I can't prove it, because I am going by memory, but I swear movies I bought in digital format on amazon have been altered (i.e. different versions replaced the one I bought), including really awful scans replacing a perfectly good scan.

 

[Thomas Shey]

That is probably wise. I can't prove it, because I am going by memory, but I swear movies I bought in digital format on amazon have been altered (i.e. different versions replaced the one I bought), including really awful scans replacing a perfectly good scan.

I actually consider that stuff more secure than the stuff I have around in CDs and DVDs because I have duplicate hard drives, so it at least has to take out both of them.

 

[overgeeked]

Sorry, no. You are not capable of reading other people's minds. It would be great if you stopped acting as if you could.

 

[Reynard]

When I was young (mid 20s) I used to hang out at this bar. It was one of those places that had like 6 TVs on. Most of the TVs were dedicated to sports. There would be football or baseball or hockey or basketball, and even golf and whatever played on ESPN and Fox Sports and TNT between major seasons. But there was always a TV that was left on The History Channel or Discovery. This was back before those were about alien Hitler dinosaur conspiracies.

Anyway, I liked to got to this bar, have a few beers and some wings, and watch the not-sports TV. Sometimes I would get in a conversation with someone -- I'm that guy at the bar that likes to talk a little, but not pour out his heart -- but usually I would just watch the TV. I don't dislike sports, sometimes I even kind of enjoyed watching parts of games and seeing people react to plays or scoring, but I was never into sports in that way and so it was rare (but not unheard of) for me to get engaged in that.

Anyway, something happened to that bar. The vibe changed (even if we did not call it that back then). It started when another bar got shut down and some of those regulars started going to "my" bar. That place was a serious sports bar. They liked to not just watch sports, but yell at the screen and each other. It got so it was hard to hear the Discovery channel TV, and then even hard to follow the games. Worse, a lot of the more chill sports watchers -- the kind of people I would have those short but interesting conversations with -- ended up leaving. It was too loud, too crowded, too raucous.

Finally, I left too. It wasn't that it was a bad bar. The wings and beer were still good. They even still kept that one TV tuned to History/Discovery. But the vibe had changed. I didn't feel comfortable there anymore. And it seemed every conversation turned into an argument about which team was better, and although it was fun to talk about sports, I did not actually care that much.

Goodnight, folks.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I do have to point out that an MP3 collection is no more or less physical than a tape or CD of music is. It might be less "official" but that's not the same thing.

Well…yes and no.

There’s definitely a physical item you can see with your eyes, hold in your hand, etc.

But one thing that sets MP3s on a drive or device apart from all previous formats is being able to retrieve some of the product’s information with no more than enough light for your eyes to view the cover & liner notes.

It doesn’t matter to everyone, but I personally find an intrinsic value in a recording’s physical attributes. Depending on the particular release, I can see & read about a band’s experiences & influences. Who represented them. Their label. Causes that matter to them. Who they’re grateful for. Lyrics. And none of that is vulnerable to changes in electronic technology- if I can see it, it’s accessible.

And depending on your particular sources for downloading your music, it could even be removed from your collection. If your subscription expires, your entire collection could evaporate.

That’s a sore spot for me because I have personally lost things I’ve created to the inevitable march of technological improvements.

So, yes, they’re physical, but I prefer to have access to the data they’ve sacrificed.