Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?
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Bedrockgames
I post in the voice of Christopher Walken
Just saw this one again. Hadn't seen it in a while
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
I don't have time today to go see what the critical consensus on it is, or watch all of the YouTube videos about it -- I have a game to run today -- but my take on it is that it was 90% brilliant, 10% silly.
Great acting, including from folks who I didn't know would be part of the cast. McConaughey was a very convincing dad. Both child actors (Timothée Chalamet is in everything!) were sensational.
The science was pretty good but you could see the points where the Nolan brothers stopped listening to the scientists and just did their own thing, even if it was silly. (What kind of plant blight breathes nitrogen? And wouldn't it need a lot more biomass or to destroy almost all plants on earth to produce enough waste to suffocate animals?) (If humanity has the resources in the last act to move a sizeable portion of the remaining population into space, why are they futzing around Saturn, which receives very little solar energy?)
But a very enjoyable riff on 2001 by Nolan, with much more of a human heart than Kubrick brought to his space epic.
Bedrockgames
I post in the voice of Christopher Walken
I'd say that 90 to 10 percent assessment is a good one (some parts of it too I think land more or less silly to different people, but I think I know what aspects you mean just from those two numbers)
Yeah, I hadn't seen it in ages and was surprised to see Timothee Chalamet played the young Casey Affleck characters
The one that got me was Saturn. I was little unclear on that detail. It looked like they created a dyson ring around it or one of its moons. But I may have missed sometime crucial here. I know Saturn is supposed to emit more energy than it absorbs so maybe that is teh explanation (no idea if Saturn emits enough energy to power that ring station he ends up: I kind of wanted to know more about it.
My understanding is scientists generally have a lot of respect for this movie. I'd be curious to know how the blight problem can be addressed because I had a similar thought to you on this but I don't know enough about biology to be sure it would be a problem.
The theme that gets everyone is love as a force, in that speech that Anne Hathaway gives. I must admit the first time I saw the movie, I was like "okay I can kind of see what she means" but this time it felt much more forced. However I also realized from her point of view, this theory falls apart because she is being drawn to that planet by her love for Matt Damon (think his name was Mann in the movie). But that ends in a disaster and clearly Damon is NOT motivated by a love for anyone but himself (I really enjoyed his performance more this time because the first time I just thought he was playing a complete A Hole, and this time I realized there was a lot of interesting internal conflict driving his behavior: he is the guy who thought he was humanity's hero and realized he was just meant to die on a rock merely to send data back to earth, and he couldn't accept that. As an example I remembered him being much more ruthless with Mathew McConaughey, but he is kind of only half killing him and half looking at what is going on. He is still a villain and an A hole, but there were more notes in the performance than I had initially recalled
I liked the 2001 vibe of much of it. I will say on this viewing one critique I have is with Kubrick everything moved along at a pace that felt right to me (not sure quite how to put this but the elapsing of time convinced me of slow space travel). Whereas this movie, even when the dialogue was making clear that they would spend two years during the journey in cryo-sleep, felt like things moved more as in star wars (like you can hope in a craft and loop around a black hole with ease). Not sure that is a mark against the movie, but it kind of stuck out a little more on the view
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
I thought at the end they referred to Cooper and Brand stations. I thought they had sent several of their concrete bunkers (they even pause to let Cooper see he's in the same facility he and Murph visited initially, just in space) into orbit around Saturn instead of sending them through to the Gargantua system.
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Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
Also, I'm not sure the blight was necessary at all. Just have the Earth, at some point in the nonspecific 21st century, be experiencing catastrophic climate change. Then the big dark secret that Michael Caine is holding onto is just that their projections show that things will come to a head and Earth will be uninhabitable within 20 years, or whatever. So you still get the ticking clock without the probably impossible blight (unless the blight is extraterrestrial in origin, which feels like one too many things to toss into this soup).
Ryujin
Legend
Well when you miss the point, you overshoot.
trappedslider
Legend
So, it turns out the real villain of Titanic is Rose.
Rose decides to throw away a $250 million pendant in memory of an unemployed man she slept with exactly once—a man who never even owned the necklace. She completely disregards the fact that the explorer who brought her to the wreck had built his entire career around finding that necklace. Yet, she held onto it for decades, on the off chance she’d end up at the wreck site again, just to chuck it into the ocean for no good reason… and croaks in his bed. Then goes and waltzes passed her husband in the afterlife to meet up with her 3 day fling!
Meanwhile, she conveniently leaves out the part where she let Jack—the “three-day love of her life”—freeze to death because she couldn’t scoot over a bit on the giant door. Oh, and maybe, just maybe, her husband of many years might’ve liked to know she’d been hanging onto a $250 million necklace all that time? How about her granddaughter, who was caring for her? An early retirement fund, anyone?
Rose decides to throw away a $250 million pendant in memory of an unemployed man she slept with exactly once—a man who never even owned the necklace. She completely disregards the fact that the explorer who brought her to the wreck had built his entire career around finding that necklace. Yet, she held onto it for decades, on the off chance she’d end up at the wreck site again, just to chuck it into the ocean for no good reason… and croaks in his bed. Then goes and waltzes passed her husband in the afterlife to meet up with her 3 day fling!
Meanwhile, she conveniently leaves out the part where she let Jack—the “three-day love of her life”—freeze to death because she couldn’t scoot over a bit on the giant door. Oh, and maybe, just maybe, her husband of many years might’ve liked to know she’d been hanging onto a $250 million necklace all that time? How about her granddaughter, who was caring for her? An early retirement fund, anyone?
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