Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[kermit4karate]

I completely get it when the people using it know how to check the answers it gives (because they know the underlying ideas) and actually do check. I mean, I use it to double check all kinds of stuff I think I have worked out right. And can certainly imagine cases where I would ask it for things and then check them. (I've taken to running the assignments I give through it just to see what it gets right and wrong).

But I have no mercy for the author of a paper sent to a journal I edit for if it has hallucinated references. Or for a PhD student who asks AI for a short summary of a paper I told them to read and figure out and ask me about if they get stuck, and then thibks reading the summary is enough.

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It feels kind of like watching a pitcher go to the batting cages to get better. (As opposed to a batter going to them).

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Also not eager to see what the influx of data centers due to our state's power costs and water supplies.

Oh, it still makes mistakes for sure, but it's learning and getting better a hell of a lot quicker than any actual human I know.

A baby born today who goes to preschool in a few years, kinder, then through primary and secondary school? Compare how fast AI is developing to how an actual human will develop over the next 17 years.

No comparison, right? Imagine where AI will be in 17 years. shivers!

Bottom line, we are toast.

 

[Deset Gled]

Y'all complained a lot about that thread, but I'm missing it today

 

[Ryujin]

Its going to be really unfortunate when an entire generation has no idea how to actually do something, and just gets by describing kind of sort of what they think they understand and hoping for the best.

Some people whine that SciFi in which an advanced civilization forgets how to make and repair its tech is unrealistics.

<Waves hands at the world>

I failed out of my first year University, in spectacular "never been on his own has no clue how to live and got by in HS by just being smart enough" fashion. My Math final was a glorious fireball.

I dont envy educators right now, I doubt there is any kind of guidance that is going to actually land 100% correctly. My company has no clue how to deal with things, most dont if the 'workslop' articles are anything to go by.

I mean at least (some?) schools are limiting phones in class now? Yay for an absolutely obvious move?

Its all moving a bit faster than our highly evolved ... ahem brains can manage I think.

In college I got good enough marks on tests and assignments that I got advanced standing, and as a result didn't have to write most final exams. I'm imagining what that would mean for a student who got through by letting AI do all the work.

 

[TiQuinn]

Sure would suck if this became the new AI thread.

 

[Cadence]

In college I got good enough marks on tests and assignments that I got advanced standing, and as a result didn't have to write most final exams. I'm imagining what that would mean for a student who got through by letting AI do all the work.

Yup. And that's kind of what has led most, if not all, of our department's classes* that used to have grades largely based on homework, projects, and take homes to significantly up the in class exam portion this year.

* 35,000+ student research University in the US

 

[Willie the Duck]

Are non-alcoholic drinks necessarily lower calorie? I honestly have no idea.

Not inherently (as mentioned, you can throw fruit juice and sugar syrup in regardless of alcohol content, or otherwise change the product before or after alcohol-removal). The above-mentioned Guinness is already one of the lowest-cal dark beers available even with alcohol. That said, alcohol is effectively sugar with 1/15-1/19th* of the calories removed via anaerobic metabolism. Taking it out of the equation is a really good way to eliminate a calorie source.
*In the theoretical construct, a molecule of glucose yields 38 ATP molecules in complete oxidation (compared to 2 for anaerobic digestion), but the actual experimental net output is closer to 30-32 ATP.

Regarding Guinness Zero -- I like it, but wish its presence didn't mean that stores stopped stocking Kaliber (effectively N/A Harps) -- which was the good non-alcoholic 'dark beer that isn't Guinness.'

Regarding the name -- I wish the industry had standardized and just put a big, clunky 'N/A' or '0.0' at the end of all their product names and then everyone could mentally treat them as modifiers. It worked with pop/soda/whatever (we've already had this thread) and 'diet' -- some people have strong opinions on diet soft drinks and if they should exist/be drunk at all, but no one bats an eye on diet Coke being named diet Coke and same with diet Pepsi, etc.

 

[TiQuinn]

Not inherently (as mentioned, you can throw fruit juice and sugar syrup in regardless of alcohol content, or otherwise change the product before or after alcohol-removal). The above-mentioned Guinness is already one of the lowest-cal dark beers available even with alcohol. That said, alcohol is effectively sugar with 1/15-1/19th* of the calories removed via anaerobic metabolism. Taking it out of the equation is a really good way to eliminate a calorie source.
*In the theoretical construct, a molecule of glucose yields 38 ATP molecules in complete oxidation (compared to 2 for anaerobic digestion), but the actual experimental net output is closer to 30-32 ATP.

Regarding Guinness Zero -- I like it, but wish its presence didn't mean that stores stopped stocking Kaliber (effectively N/A Harps) -- which was the good non-alcoholic 'dark beer that isn't Guinness.'

Regarding the name -- I wish the industry had standardized and just put a big, clunky 'N/A' or '0.0' at the end of all their product names and then everyone could mentally treat them as modifiers. It worked with pop/soda/whatever (we've already had this thread) and 'diet' -- some people have strong opinions on diet soft drinks and if they should exist/be drunk at all, but no one bats an eye on diet Coke being named diet Coke and same with diet Pepsi, etc.

Then you get the weirdness that is Diet Coke Vs. Coke Zero. I swear to god I cannot taste any difference between the two.

 

[Ryujin]

Then you get the weirdness that is Diet Coke Vs. Coke Zero. I swear to god I cannot taste any difference between the two.

I can, but the difference between Coke Zero and regular Coke is more subtle. And don't get me started on the horror that is the Stevia based stuff

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Last night, I dragged myself out my island lair and watched the new Paul Thomas Anderson movie at the theater - One Battle After Another.

Really good. Highly recommend. It's not his best (I think I'll do an update on the rankings), but it's up there. It's ... well, I don't want to either spoil the topic or violate board rules, so I'll just say that it is highly topical and timely, as well as just being a great movie.

For those of you who are also Pynchon fans, it is loosely based on Vineland. Think similar themes and plot elements, as opposed to an adaptation.

 

[kermit4karate]

I can, but the difference between Coke Zero and regular Coke is more subtle. And don't get me started on the horror that is the Stevia based stuff

Perhaps interestingly, aspartame is also used as a flavor enhancer in some Asian countries, not only as a low-calorie artificial sweetener. Li Hing used in dried plums, salted plums and Chinese preserved plums is flavored using aspartame and some other things, but the aspartame isn't used to make it low-calorie.