Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

A conversation ....

Achilles: Xeno .... Xeno ... Xeno ... XENO XENO XENO XENO XENO!!!!!

Xeno: loud sigh ... Yes? What can I do for you, Achilles?

Achilles: What are you doing, Xeno?

Xeno: Just watching the season finale of Peacemaker and eating some pizza.

Achilles: Huh. Oh ... you're not eating ... ugh ... pineapples on your pizza, are you? That's not even pizza.

Xeno: What? As a matter of fact, I did get my pie topped with pineapple. I love eating pineapple pizza. It's tasty.

Achilles: That's not pizza. That's a Mouthful of Hot Garbage!

Xeno: ....Achilles, what are you talking about? Um, no. It's a yummy slice of pineapple pizza.

Achilles: Nope. It's a Mouthful of Hot Garbage. You know, MHG!

Xeno: What ... are ... you ... talking ... about?

Achilles: See, pizzas with pineapple topping? We call them a "Mouthful of Hot Garbage." You know, MHG. Just so we can properly talk about eating things.

Xeno: Dude. Not cool. I like eating pineapple pizza!

Achilles: Hey, c'mon Achilles. No need to be so weird. It's just a term.

Xeno: Just a term? You like pepperoni pizza, right? Well, how about I call your pepperoni pizza slices ... "The Vomit on A Triangle?"

Achilles: Well, you won't. Because that's not the right term, see? Now, let's talk more about how much everyone hates a Mouthful of Hot Garbage. Did you know that MHGs reduce the amount of topping agency?

Xeno: I like pineapple pizza! And stop calling it MHG!

Achilles: Hey now! I don't think getting all angry about terminology is going to help us understand why everyone hates a Mouthful of Hot Garbage! Sheesh.

Xeno: ....I am calling Hector and telling him to get the other heel.
 

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It’s something of a common trick to intentionally leave out important words or obscure them with jargon, thereby intentionally failing to communicate, then blaming the reader or listener for not understanding. People who do that aren’t communicating in good faith. Stop engaging with them.

One of my particular favorites is when you make a post to call someone out on the problems with their jargon, and they respond with a load of new jargon.

Sure, dude. That's a great hole you've got there. Enjoy your new shovel.
 

One of my particular favorites is when you make a post to call someone out on the problems with their jargon, and they respond with a load of new jargon.

Sure, dude. That's a great hole you've got there. Enjoy your new shovel.

A lot of discussions on EnWorld are the equivalent of two people arguing over whether poker is better than bridge, because one game is better at maximizing fnord.
 


When you're making up new words to define the new words you made up to define the new words you made up...
Just let me know when I win the argument, okay?

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One of my particular favorites is when you make a post to call someone out on the problems with their jargon, and they respond with a load of new jargon.

Sure, dude. That's a great hole you've got there. Enjoy your new shovel.
When someone can't respond or explain a thing without using jargon I assume they're one of two things: they're either such an expert on whatever they're talking about that they've been swimming in the deep waters of that subject for so long they've forgotten that other people don't know what they're talking about, and having to adjust to that is like when blobfish are suddenly pulled up out of the depths, or they actually don't really know much and are trying to cover that up. 999/1000 it's the second one.
 

When someone can't respond or explain a thing without using jargon I assume they're one of two things: they're either such an expert on whatever they're talking about that they've been swimming in the deep waters of that subject for so long they've forgotten that other people don't know what they're talking about, and having to adjust to that is like when blobfish are suddenly pulled up out of the depths, or they actually don't really know much and are trying to cover that up. 999/1000 it's the second one.
I consider part of my job, as technical support, to be helping people to know how they can correct a problem if it occurs again. A big part of that is demystifying the reason for it happening in the first place. Jargon and TLAs obfuscate, they don't explain. Unfortunately, far too many of my co-workers fall into that trap.
 



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