• The VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX is coming! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!

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Take a look at the books, poster map, and DM screen!

You can now pre-order Planescape: Adventures in the Multiverse from D&D Beyond. The set comes out on October 17th.

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  • Discover 2 new backgrounds, the Gate Warden & the Planar Philosopher, to build planar characters in the D&D Beyond character builder
  • Channel 7 otherworldly feats, new intriguing magic spells & more powered by planar energies
  • Explore 12 new ascendant factions, each with distinct cosmic ideologies
  • Face over 50 unusual creatures including planar incarnates, hierarch modrons, and time dragons in the Encounter Builder
  • Journey across the Outlands in an adventure for characters levels 3-10 and 17
  • Adds adventure hooks, encounter tables, maps of Sigil and the Outlands & more to your game
This 3 books set comprises:
  • Sigil and the Outlands: a setting book full of planar character options with details on the fantastic City of Doors, descriptions of the Outlands, the gate-towns that lead to the Outer planes, and more
  • Turn of the Fortunes Wheel: an adventure set in Sigil and the Outlands designed for character levels 3-10 with a jump to level 17
  • Morte’s Planar Parade: Follow Morte as he presents over 50 inhabitants of the Outer Plane, including incarnates, hierarch modrons, time dragons, and more with their stats and descriptions


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It's driving me nuts note knowing what spells are in Planescape, like they playtesteed the feats & backgrounds, but not the spells. Could this mean they aren't new spells, but rather reprints of say certain spells in Tasha and Xanthar's, like Summon Aberration (for the Slaadi), Summon Celestial, Summon Construct (Modron), Summon Fiend, Conjure Minor Demons, Conjure Demon, Infernal Calling?
 

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It's driving me nuts note knowing what spells are in Planescape, like they playtesteed the feats & backgrounds, but not the spells. Could this mean they aren't new spells, but rather reprints of say certain spells in Tasha and Xanthar's, like Summon Aberration (for the Slaadi), Summon Celestial, Summon Construct (Modron), Summon Fiend, Conjure Minor Demons, Conjure Demon, Infernal Calling?
Do the previews even say there are new spells in the book?
 


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Generally speaking, causing harm to other sapient beings for reasons other than self-defense is going to put you in the "evil" category. Self-sacrifice is generally expected of those who are biologically required to kill or take over other sapient beings to not be evil. Additionally, with magic, there is usually a non-deadly option available, like creating mindless clones, regeneration, etc.
If you grow up with this life cycle - being born this way, yourself - and spend your life within your own species who never question their basic biology - then really, how are you evil? For you, this is the way of life and you have never seen anything else. Plus, Red and Blue Slaadi are not supremely intelligent, nor can they cast spells. The Green and higher level ones actually do not reproduce at all, so to them this isn't something they need to deal with (in most respect they are really considered a different species than Reds and Blues).
Compare this to say, ritualistic/etc cannibalism or straight up eating sapient species. The Lizardfolk eat both their own people's corpses, as well as fallen foes. The Thri-Kreen, when they are starving, will go out and hunt Humans or Elves. Neither species is considered evil, despite that. (I think Thri-Kreen are Chaotic Neutral, like Slaadi).

That's why I said "by default."

When you have to buy a second product to make a setting usable, it's not usable by default.

The outer planes were originally created as a way to match up with the nine-point alignment grid first, and as a gamable setting second.
But I assume the description of Limbo and what you can find there was NOT in any previous core book , no? So unless you bought Planes of Chaos, you would not think to make an adventure there. I do not recall basic 2E AD&D doing a Manual of the Planes, only 1E AD&D had that. For 2E this was AFAIk the first time it was described in detail.

Is there an easy to find list of the monsters in this thing? That's the only part of it I have any interest in getting (i did the same for Spelljammer).
That and the Sigil/Outlands gazetteer are my main interest too. So far, from product listing and artwork, we know around 50 monsters are in this book. These are the ones mentioned or seen:
-Hierarch Modrons (no idea if all 10 types including Primus, or just a few, the Decaton is definitely in there as we have art of it on the cover)
-Planar Incarnates (Incarnate - Complete Compendium)
-Time Dragons
-Gehreleths / Demodands (all 3 types, Farastu, Kelubar, Shator)
-Bariaur
-Dabus
-Sunfly (Sunfly - Complete Compendium)
-Nic'Epona (Nic'Epona - Complete Compendium)
-Parai (Parai - Complete Compendium)
-Eater of Knowledge (Eater of Knowledge - Complete Compendium)
-Some sort of unindentified robot-like construct, possibly an Inevitable
-Some sort of anthropomorph mouse, possibly a Musteval Guardinal (Musteval) (Still dunno why they called a mouse-like Guardinal a Musteval, when Mustelidae is the family of weasels, stoats, ferrets, etc... Should have been called Rodental or Mureal. :p)

Honestly I doubt we'd see Deities and Demigods because not only did it cause legal troubles with the whole Cthulhu crew, but folks basically treated it as an extended monster manual, except this time you could kill the gods and shatter their thrones
Wait, Cthulhu crew? I thought most of those lovecraftian gods did not exist in D&D. Even though they are in public domain (and Paizo uses them a lot due to this).

I'm fairly certain that the bulbous brain monster on the cover of Morte's Planar Parade is an Eater of Knowledge, too! I could be wrong, though!
Actually, the artist confirmed it on Twitter and even shared the artwork.
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If you grow up with this life cycle - being born this way, yourself - and spend your life within your own species who never question their basic biology - then really, how are you evil? For you, this is the way of life and you have never seen anything else. Plus, Red and Blue Slaadi are not supremely intelligent, nor can they cast spells. The Green and higher level ones actually do not reproduce at all, so to them this isn't something they need to deal with (in most respect they are really considered a different species than Reds and Blues).
Compare this to say, ritualistic/etc cannibalism or straight up eating sapient species. The Lizardfolk eat both their own people's corpses, as well as fallen foes. The Thri-Kreen, when they are starving, will go out and hunt Humans or Elves. Neither species is considered evil, despite that. (I think Thri-Kreen are Chaotic Neutral, like Slaadi).


But I assume the description of Limbo and what you can find there was NOT in any previous core book , no? So unless you bought Planes of Chaos, you would not think to make an adventure there. I do not recall basic 2E AD&D doing a Manual of the Planes, only 1E AD&D had that. For 2E this was AFAIk the first time it was described in detail.


That and the Sigil/Outlands gazetteer are my main interest too. So far, from product listing and artwork, we know around 50 monsters are in this book. These are the ones mentioned or seen:
-Hierarch Modrons (no idea if all 10 types including Primus, or just a few, the Decaton is definitely in there as we have art of it on the cover)
-Planar Incarnates (Incarnate - Complete Compendium)
-Time Dragons
-Gehreleths / Demodands (all 3 types, Farastu, Kelubar, Shator)
-Bariaur
-Dabus
-Sunfly (Sunfly - Complete Compendium)
-Nic'Epona (Nic'Epona - Complete Compendium)
-Parai (Parai - Complete Compendium)
-Eater of Knowledge (Eater of Knowledge - Complete Compendium)
-Some sort of unindentified robot-like construct, possibly an Inevitable
-Some sort of anthropomorph mouse, possibly a Musteval Guardinal (Musteval) (Still dunno why they called a mouse-like Guardinal a Musteval, when Mustelidae is the family of weasels, stoats, ferrets, etc... Should have been called Rodental or Mureal. :p)


Wait, Cthulhu crew? I thought most of those lovecraftian gods did not exist in D&D. Even though they are in public domain (and Paizo uses them a lot due to this).


Actually, the artist confirmed it on Twitter and even shared the artwork.
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Woah!!! Thank you, that looks amazing!!
 

-Some sort of anthropomorph mouse, possibly a Musteval Guardinal (Musteval) (Still dunno why they called a mouse-like Guardinal a Musteval, when Mustelidae is the family of weasels, stoats, ferrets, etc... Should have been called Rodental or Mureal. :p)

Because when it was introduced in 3e (in the Book of Exalted Deeds), it was described as being "ferret-like", which would make it a mustelid. But apparently people have since just seen the picture without reading the original source and have assumed it's a mouse. Even the wikis do so...
 

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Woah!!! Thank you, that looks amazing!!
Hope we get a miniature out of it!
Honestly, I hope Wizkids gives us a Modron warband set... we got all the base Modrons as minis, but due to some fluke the Tridrone was a Rare and is hard to get.
Because when it was introduced in 3e (in the Book of Exalted Deeds), it was described as being "ferret-like", which would make it a mustelid. But apparently people have since just seen the picture without reading the original source and have assumed it's a mouse. Even the wikis do so...
Oh I see. Must have been some miscommunication then between the artist and the writers - as he drew it as a mouse. Yeah even the wiki says it is mouse-like. As far as I know Guardinals were not in any later editions yet, so this is the only art the Musteval ever got.
Something similar happened with the poor Spectator, the reason we got the weird long tongued and very much not chill and neutral looking Beholder-kin art in the Monster Manual was that the artist was actually given the description for the Gauth. He was corrected later and managed to alter the art (removing the tentacles and eye-ring) but well, the pose stayed.
 

Wait, Cthulhu crew? I thought most of those lovecraftian gods did not exist in D&D. Even though they are in public domain (and Paizo uses them a lot due to this).
Chthulu is mentioned in the 5e PHB as a possible patron for Great Old One Warlocks, as I recall, so it exists in current D&D lore at least to the same degree that deities from real-world mythology like Zeus and Thor do.

That said, I suspect that Mecheon was referring to the old 1e Deities & Demigods, which had an initial printing containing a number of entries drawn from Lovecraft, Moorcock, etc. that weren't public domain at that time and they either flat out weren't supposed to use or the license they were working under got yanked, causing them to remove those entries for all future printings (my familiarity with 1e-era shenanigans is limited, so feel free to correct me if I'm misremembering something).

Lovecraft's work is public domain these days to my knowledge (very much not an expert, so again, feel free to correct me), but I believe Paizo still has a licensing agreement with Chaosium (publishers of the Call of Chthulu TTRPG) to use Chthulu et al. in Pathfinder.
 
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Thanks to Kor on Minisgallery, we have images of the Limited Edition release set from the upcoming Wizkids Set 30 - Planescape -Adventures in the Multiverse!
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Like with the Bigby's set, these are probably the repaints of Uncommon rarity minis from the upcoming set.
The minis named are:
-R04M - a Monodrone, nice touch with the painted wing. Often, people who regularly deal with Modrons put paint or markings on their chassis (Modrons will ignore this and won't remove them unless instructed by superiors) so they can tell the various Modrons apart, given that their personalities are all the same.
-Doomguard Rot Blade - That confirms the Doomguard are still around as a faction.
-Bariaur Wanderer - Nice to see they did not get undersized like the Centaur minis in the Theros set.
-Warden Archon - I am super happy because this confirms Archons - the proper, Lawful Good Celestials, not the 4E Elementals in armor (those are called Myrmidons now) are back to 5E! Hopefully we get other ones like the Sword or Trumpet or Hound Archons too.
-Shemeshka's Bodyguard - That is clearly an Eater of Knowledge, all dressed up prim and proper. :D Ilsenine is known to loan out his creations to especially lower planar creatures. Leave it to Shemeshka (who, like the Penguin in DC comics, runs a "reputable establishment" in Sigil), to try to dress up a mass of brain matter so they do not ooze slime everywhere in her casino. :D

We do not have preview images yet from the main set. One thing that is sure though, that other than the Limited Edition set and the regular boosters, there is also a "Character Miniatures Boxed set" coming, and a separate set for a larger creature called a Whirlwyrm. Not sure what the latter is, maybe something from the adventure.
 
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New interview with Jeremy Crawford, who says the upcoming rules revision will make it easier for WotC to revisit the settings they already made books for in 5E, such as Spelljammer, Ravenloft and Planescape. So if we are lucky, this book isn't the last thing about the setting Wizards will make.
 

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