Player problems

[Trainz]

Well, to quote you, "like I said earlier"...

Don't play with him.

Simple really...

 

[Nightfall]

Yeah and also if he gets out of line, put a dead horse's head in his bed. That will fix em!

 

[shilsen]

Yeah and also if he gets out of line, put a dead horse's head in his bed. That will fix em!

I was going to suggest ye olde sock full of pennies, but your idea is better. More subtle

 

[Tinker Gnome]

Also when i tried talking to him, and said the game was about having fun. He just gave me a blank look, like what i just said was completely alien to him.

Oh, and under him, our Paladin lost his hand, and now has a metal one that he has to maintain. Would an appropriate reward for him be getting his hand back, and allowing him to switch out his monkey-grip feat? I am trying to undo the damage my brother has done.

EDIT: He can not use the metal hand to hold his greatsword with, hence the monkey-grip feat. It is a long story, but he changed classes from Ranger to Paladin when he lost his hand.

 

[BSF]

Also when i tried talking to him, and said the game was about having fun. He just gave me a blank look, like what i just said was completely alien to him.

Oh, and under him, our Paladin lost his hand, and now has a metal one that he has to maintain. Would an appropriate reward for him be getting his hand back, and allowing him to switch out his monkey-grip feat? I am trying to undo the damage my brother has done.

EDIT: He can not use the metal hand to hold his greatsword with, hence the monkey-grip feat. It is a long story, but he changed classes from Ranger to Paladin when he lost his hand.

Two options on the hand thing - give him a magical/steampunk hand that actually works like a hand. Let him meet a cleric that can cast regenerate.

You are using 3.0 right? Let him keep Monkey Grip so he can swap between two-weapon use or dropping his off-hand weapon and getting 1.5 x Str bonuses when he hits a creature real hard.

EDIT: Commentary on your brother.
Maybe you can get him to stop playing? Sit down at your computer and put together a fancy certificate with some blank spots for the player name, character name, DM name and the date. I would suggest making it ~ 1/2 page in size. Print it out on some nice paper. Cut it out and stash it near the back of your DMG.

Setup some fairly improbable situation that he will come up with some wacky solution for. When it happens, just stare at him for a few moments with a dumbfounded look on your face. Slowly change it to awe. Shake your head slowly as you pull the certificate out of the back of the DMG. Start filling in all the blanks, sign it and then hand it to him and ask him to sign it. Explain that he just won the game and he gets that certificate as a reward.

Now, since he won the game, there is no real sense in him playing except with people who have also won the game. You will keep playing with the other guys and maybe, just maybe, someday, they will win the game too.

*shrug* Maybe it will even work.

 

[Tinker Gnome]

Two options on the hand thing - give him a magical/steampunk hand that actually works like a hand. Let him meet a cleric that can cast regenerate.

You are using 3.0 right? Let him keep Monkey Grip so he can swap between two-weapon use or dropping his off-hand weapon and getting 1.5 x Str bonuses when he hits a creature real hard.

EDIT: Commentary on your brother.
Maybe you can get him to stop playing? Sit down at your computer and put together a fancy certificate with some blank spots for the player name, character name, DM name and the date. I would suggest making it ~ 1/2 page in size. Print it out on some nice paper. Cut it out and stash it near the back of your DMG.

Setup some fairly improbable situation that he will come up with some wacky solution for. When it happens, just stare at him for a few moments with a dumbfounded look on your face. Slowly change it to awe. Shake your head slowly as you pull the certificate out of the back of the DMG. Start filling in all the blanks, sign it and then hand it to him and ask him to sign it. Explain that he just won the game and he gets that certificate as a reward.

Now, since he won the game, there is no real sense in him playing except with people who have also won the game. You will keep playing with the other guys and maybe, just maybe, someday, they will win the game too.

*shrug* Maybe it will even work.

Ehh, that probably would not work. But i will probably have the dragon who gave them his trial, regenerate his hand for him.

 

[mythago]

If he is physically forcing you to do anything, you need to make this clear to your parents. This is not acceptable, normal big-brother behavior. If your parents blow it off, talk to a school counselor, teacher, somebody you trust who has the power to intervene.

In the real world, when you shove people around, you get in a world of trouble. Best that Bro learns this early.

 

[Tinker Gnome]

If he is physically forcing you to do anything, you need to make this clear to your parents. This is not acceptable, normal big-brother behavior. If your parents blow it off, talk to a school counselor, teacher, somebody you trust who has the power to intervene.

In the real world, when you shove people around, you get in a world of trouble. Best that Bro learns this early.

We;;, luckily, he has not been doing this as much. To get him to stop i usually have to force him out of my room, by hitting him until he leaves.

 

[Magius del Cotto]

Hm... Probably the best thing you can do for (to?) him is to point him to the boards and have him look through how other groups interact. He thinks that Player vs GM is the only "real" type of D&D experience out there? Post a poll, let the users put in a good number of votes, and then show him the results. You should get some good commentary on the different styles of play as well, and you never know, you might find a new style of play that you've just gotta try out.
After that, I'd say (seriously) set the game up at someone elses place (if it's not at your place, you can convince them not to invite him over), or (non-seriously) start taking Martial Arts lessons. Or you could always set it up so that the gods take an active interest in what happens in the mortal realm. I imagine the first time this happens going something like this:
You: The gods smite you.
Bro: What?! Why?
You: Well, as the DM, I control, among other things, the way the gods react to what you're doing, correct?
Bro: Yes, but...
You: Also, by constantly complaining about how things are happening, you are angering me, correct?
Bro: I guess...
You: And, if you anger me, then there's a good chance that you're angering the gods as well, correct?
Bro: If you say so...
You: And, since the gods are now angry, and we've already established that they take a keen interest in what happens in the mortal realm (possibly show this by restoring the paladin's hand with a divine miracle early on, in exchange for a previously agreed upon quest), what other course of action would they take than to smite you?
Bro: Well, I don't think that the gods would care <b>that</b> much...
You: Would you rather the entire pantheon smite you? How about the Overgod?
Bro: ...
You: Thank you. Anyways, as I was saying...

You're actual experience, however, may be completely different.
Magius out.

 

[mythago]

We;;, luckily, he has not been doing this as much. To get him to stop i usually have to force him out of my room, by hitting him until he leaves.

You shouldn't have to. Please see previous reply.