D&D (2024) Playtest: Is the Human Terrible?

[Maxperson]

Yeah, "specific beats general" does not mean that "specific becomes general." The specificity of 2014 Feats nitnahving Level menas that they do not work with features that require leveled Feats.

The UA is not even specific. It's a general statement that is clearly talking only about the 1st level feats in the UA. Without specific language applying it to the 2014 handbook, it simply isn't a case of Specific Beats General at all.

 

[Maxperson]

Edit: Never mind. I said I was done

 

[Parmandur]

The UA applies to any "feat". Players Handbook, Xanathars, Tashas, Strixhaven, Theros, Eberron, etcetera.

Whatever feats are used alongside the UA have a level.

That isn't what is written, but you can certainly do that as a houserule. As a further example of how this is houseruling, the Supernaturla Gifts in Theros aren't technically Feats, though the text does admit theybare basically just Feats by saying that any PHB Feat can be taken instead. I'd say the Supermatural Gifts make great cornerstones of a UA style custom Background, but they aren't really even Feats, let alone 1st Level Feats.

 

[Parmandur]

The specificity is: "Each feat has a level."

Anyone using the UA, applies this rule to any other feat. But only if they are using the UA.

That's general, not specific, and in general terms it only applies to OneD&D Feats, not the variant rule from 2014.

 

[Yaarel]

That isn't what is written, but you can certainly do that as a houserule. As a further example of how this is houseruling, the Supernaturla Gifts in Theros aren't technically Feats, though the text does admit theybare basically just Feats by saying that any PHB Feat can be taken instead. I'd say the Supermatural Gifts make great cornerstones of a UA style custom Background, but they aren't really even Feats, let alone 1st Level Feats.

For the rule to apply, it must be a "feat". So the "gifts" of Theros wouldnt apply.

 

[Parmandur]

For the rule to apply, it must be a "feat". So the "gifts" of Theros wouldnt apply.

For the rule to apply, the Feat would need to be explicitly Leveled.

 

[Yaarel]

and in general terms it only applies

You mean it is specific.

 

[Parmandur]

You mean it is specific.

No, it not a specific rule, it's a general rule. A 2024 Feat not having a Level is a specific rule that trumps the general rule for OneD&D that "all feats have a level." Well, Sharpshooter on the PHB doesn't, so thst general rule doesn't apply to it.

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

That was the "advantage on a roll each day". The value of it is extremely table-dependant. In many tables, Inspiration is forgotten, and maybe giving it to the character each morning will make the players more sensitive about this resource. On the other hand, table who are used to giving bonus for good roleplaying would be more forthcoming with inspiration... so it "dilutes" the value of the bonus. I guess the rule was made with tables who didn't really use inspiration before, for them the value would be better, but still the feat discrepancy isn't worth an average of +5 on a daily roll.

Well it is replacing an Extra language, which we find no use for at our table, so it is a good trade

 

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

@Maxperson

"
FEATS
This section offers a collection of 1st-level Feats, which are special features not tied to a single Class. At 1st level, your character gains a Feat from the character’s Background.

PARTS OF A FEAT
The description of a Feat contains the following parts, which are presented after the Feat’s name:

Level. Each Feat has a level. To take a Feat, your level must equal or exceed the Feat’s level.

"

This proves that the "feats" listed in the 5E PHB and other products aren't "feats" as per the 1D&D rules, since they don't have levels, and feats have levels. So they're really two different character features that happen to share the same name.