D&D (2024) Playtest: Is the Human Terrible?

[Maxperson]

Obviously it depends on your group. Advantage doesn’t come up all that often for our group and having reliably is i nice thing I’m trying to convince our DM to allow as most us play humans

And of course you are comparing that to 2 languages, which never really is a thing for our group

I'm not sure how reliable it is. You get one re-roll per long rest and the adventuring day is 6-8 encounters during that period, each encounter probably lasting 2-5 rounds. One advantage roll isn't what I would call reliably having advantage.

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

I'm not sure how reliable it is. You get one re-roll per long rest and the adventuring day is 6-8 encounters during that period, each encounter probably lasting 2-5 rounds. One advantage roll isn't what I would call reliably having advantage.

Well we usually have 1-3 encounters per day. And again, it is a hell of a lot more useful than an extra language IME, which is what it replaces.

 

[Maxperson]

The taxonomy describes any "feat". Any feat. Not just background feats.

It still does not specifically say that 2014 feats get it, so they don't. You can't assume specificity. If you do, you are automatically wrong about it since specificity means that no assumption is necessary.

 

[Reynard]

The Players Handbook feats also have a level,

They don't.

 

[Yaarel]

It still does not specifically say that 2014 feats get it, so they don't. You can't assume specificity. If you do, you are automatically wrong about it since specificity means that no assumption is necessary.

The UA says, "Each feat has a level."

If a table uses both the Players Handbook and the UA, then each feat in the Players Handbook also has a level.

 

[Maxperson]

The UA says, "Each feat has a level."

But not that it specifically applies to the PHB feats. According to the game designers, you need specific language which you do not have. You are ASSUMING that it applies to the PHB, which makes you wrong.

In any case, it seems you are hell bent on playing it incorrectly, but if you are having fun it doesn't matter. No point in discussing this further, though.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

You are not accounting for the inspiration that get after a long rest. That is worth quite a lot IME.

That was the "advantage on a roll each day". The value of it is extremely table-dependant. In many tables, Inspiration is forgotten, and maybe giving it to the character each morning will make the players more sensitive about this resource. On the other hand, table who are used to giving bonus for good roleplaying would be more forthcoming with inspiration... so it "dilutes" the value of the bonus. I guess the rule was made with tables who didn't really use inspiration before, for them the value would be better, but still the feat discrepancy isn't worth an average of +5 on a daily roll.

Edit: Well, I was ninja'ed long before, so I'll add something: when it cames to sneak attack, Crawford said that he expected the rogue to be generally able to get advantage so he could sneak attack each round. It makes advantage "less special" at tables that did that. Same with language. If your campaign takes place in a single region where everyone speaks Common, they are mostly useless. In other contexts (and willingness of tables to engage with fictional languages) it can change the way problems are approached. In my current campaign, my players are rally considering making use of the 200 days rules to learn a language since none of them had heeded my warning on the usefulness of speaking the local tongue, not exclusively the invader's one...

 

[Yaarel]

But not that it specifically applies to the PHB feats. According to the game designers, you need specific language which you do not have. You are ASSUMING that it applies to the PHB, which makes you wrong.

The UA applies to any "feat". Players Handbook, Xanathars, Tashas, Strixhaven, Theros, Eberron, etcetera.

Whatever feats are used alongside the UA have a level.

 

[Parmandur]

Yeah, "specific beats general" does not mean that "specific becomes general." The specificity of 2014 Feats nitnahving Level menas that they do not work with features that require leveled Feats.

 

[Yaarel]

Yeah, "specific beats general" does not mean that "specific becomes general." The specificity of 2014 Feats nitnahving Level menas that they do not work with features that require leveled Feats.

The specificity is: "Each feat has a level."

Anyone using the UA, applies this rule to any other feat. But only if they are using the UA.