Please rate Order of the Bow Initiate

Rate Order of the Bow Initiate

  • 1 - You should never take this class

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • 2- Not very useful

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3- of limited use

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • 4- below average

    Votes: 3 4.3%
  • 5- Average

    Votes: 4 5.8%
  • 6- above average

    Votes: 8 11.6%
  • 7- above average and cool

    Votes: 9 13.0%
  • 8- good

    Votes: 15 21.7%
  • 9- Very good

    Votes: 16 23.2%
  • 10 -Everyone should try this PrCl

    Votes: 10 14.5%

smetzger

Explorer
Order of the Bow Initiate, Sword and Fist p.32

Requirements: BAB +5, Knowledge(religion) 2 ranks, proficiency in a bow, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Rapid Shot, Weapon Focus(any bow), Weapon Specialization(any bow)

Class Features: Ranged Sneak Attack, Close combat shot, Superior Weapon Focus, Free attack, Zen Archery, Superior Weapon Specialization, Banked Shot
 

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This has got to be the most powerful figther combo the oobi with deepwood sniper and you have Legolas greenleaf ultra killing machine that shoots arrows at you from 2 feet away. Oh and because he's a fighter he can use just about any sword.
 

On itself the prestige class is good, but not too good. Combined with the deepwood sniper prestige class and the odd stacking rules of archery and you indeed do have a killing machine.
 


Hypersmurf said:


Which is the Prestige Class that eventually realises the ultimate truth, that all of his ability scores flow from the same source...?

That would be the Shiba protector, from OA. Actually, it's not a bad class. Hideously front-loaded, though.

But my prize for worst flavour text still goes to the warmaster's "Die for your country" ability. The first time I saw it, I was thinking, "KQQL! This guy can die for his country N times per day!" Then I realised it was really about making OTHER PEOPLE die for their country.

It was RUINED!!!1!
 


7.76 after 45 votes which would make it the _best_ so far.
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7. Shadowdancer(7.05,93,40632), Duelist(7.18,62,44686)

6. Arcane Archer(6.23,70,38773), Assassin(6.07,54,38913), Blackguard(6.29,52,39353), Loremaster(6.58,79,40493), Archmage(6.91, 110, 4073), Church Inquisitor(6.74,27,41662), Devoted Defender(6.68,53,43342), Drunken Master(6.03,37,43839), Lasher(6.77,71,49252)

5. Dwarven Defender(5.72,69,39947), Cavalier(5.45,53,42534), Fist of Hextor(5.41,29,45277), Knight Protector of the Great Kingdom(5.69,32,48520), Master of Chains(5.83,40,49469), Ninja of the Crescent Moon(5.66,50768)

4. Ghost Walker(4.95,37,46163), Gladiator(4.85,34,46981)

3. Halfling Outrider(3.73,49,47746)
 

It's not only good, it is too good. Archery is already a powerful ability, and there is no need to enlarge its powers in order to be viable. And as others have said, combine the front end effects of this class with a couple of other equally poorly thought out archery focused PrC's and you have the makings of a problem. Yada yada, and all the other stuff that has been said so many times before.
 

I voted "You should never take this class" because it's too good.

Archery is broken before it starts getting uber broken prestige classes.
 

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