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Prestige Classes for Bards or Sorcerers?

For those of us not near our Dragon magazine collections, could you summarize the Eldritch Master prc, so we can determine whether it's worth the trouble to dig up?
 

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Sorcerer PrC's:
Exalted Arcanist (Book of Exalted Deeds)

Man, not many WotC Sorcerer PrC's :\

Bard PrC's:
War Chanter (Complete Warrior)
Dragon Song Lyrist (Draconomicon)
Troubadour of the Stars (Book of Exalted Deeds)
Spellsinger (Races of Faerun)
 

Pants said:
Sorcerer PrC's:
Exalted Arcanist (Book of Exalted Deeds)

Man, not many WotC Sorcerer PrC's :\

Bard PrC's:
War Chanter (Complete Warrior)
Dragon Song Lyrist (Draconomicon)
Troubadour of the Stars (Book of Exalted Deeds)
Spellsinger (Races of Faerun)

That is the problem. There aren't many good sorcerer prestige classes and there are even fewer goor bard prestige classes.

The best sorcerer prestige class I have seen by far is the Academy Sorcerer in the the "Age of Heroes" book for Dragonlance. It is outstanding and second to none. It provides bonuses to certain paths of study (cold spells, fire spells, lightning spells divinations etc.) similar to a specialist wizard but you can additional ones at certain levels AND you get bonus feats AND your spellcasting continues to improve as normal. The old Incantatrix prestige class from the FR setting was also very good for sorcerers although I don't know what the new FR book did to it. If you have Oriental Adventures, the Eunuch Warlock is decent. The Eldrich Master from Dragon Magazine is also decent mainly because it allows you to learn non-Sorcerer/Wizard spells.

As for bard, there really aren't any really good prestige classes that work well. Virtuoso is probably the best of a sparse lot. Beyond that you either have highly restricted ones like those from the "Draconomicon" and the "Book of Exalted Deeds" or you have to struggle to take rogue-type classes or sorcerer type classes.

Tzarevitch
 

Singer of the Dead and Seeker of Lost Lore from Arcane Strife. The second one is more geared toward ancient information, but if your party is seeking something long-lost, that's the way to go.

As for sorcerer PrCs... Bloodsong Dancer and Master of the Hive (also Arcane Strife) are good ones.
 

Tzarevitch said:
The best sorcerer prestige class I have seen by far is the Academy Sorcerer in the the "Age of Heroes" book for Dragonlance. It is outstanding and second to none. It provides bonuses to certain paths of study (cold spells, fire spells, lightning spells divinations etc.) similar to a specialist wizard but you can additional ones at certain levels AND you get bonus feats AND your spellcasting continues to improve as normal.
So, why wouldn't a sorcerer take this PrC? It just sounds like an immense power-up for the class.
 

Spatula said:
So, why wouldn't a sorcerer take this PrC? It just sounds like an immense power-up for the class.

From my experience, there's no reason not to take ANY PrC (that grants full spellcasting advancement) as a sorceror. The only thing he gains by sticking with the base class is familiar advancement and the Epic bonus feats.
 

It often depends on the requirements, they can be quite harsh for some classes.

Anyways, I think the 3.5 Incantatrix will be a great Sorcerer PrC.

Bye
Thanee
 

Dragon

If you are looking for an information gatherer, Dragon ran a couple bard prestige classes a few months back (I think it was the first look at Eberon issue, it had alternate druids, clerics & 3 or 4 bard PCs). One of the bard classes was the "Worldspeaker". He continued to advance as a bard (same BAB, Spells, Knowledge & performance powers) but he also had some bonus abilities thrown in relating to communication. He could eventually speak w/animals, plants, the dead & elemental forces. It seemed like it could be interesting.

There was also a druid/bard, a dwarven fighter/smith/bard and a lamenter-bard that could speak to the dead & help lay undead to rest. They were all 5-level classes and seemed interesting enough. None were super powerful but they didn't lose many bard abilities either.
 

For what you want, you might consider the 'arcane arranger' from d20 modern. Prerequisites are all skills (so no problem with meeting them), and the abilities are right up your alley.

Although a couple might be a bit difficult to do (like that ability he has where he can get items that he just happens to need - you need to work out what sort of D&D GP limit that would have, etc.)
 

Spatula said:
So, why wouldn't a sorcerer take this PrC? It just sounds like an immense power-up for the class.

It is. There is no reason not to take it unless you just want something else. It is far and away the best sorcerer prestige class I have seen (athough bards can enter it too).

Tzarevitch
 

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