Prestige Classes that are "super" versions of normal classes

Battle Sorcerer 4/Human Paragon 3/Mindbender 1/Heartfire Fanner 2/Sublime Chord 2/Eldritch Knight 8 is super bard.

Battle Sorcerer (Unearthed Arcana)
Human Paragon (Unearthed Arcana)
Mind Bender (Complete Arcane)
Heartfire Fanner (Dragon -elemental issue, forget the #) Allows Bardic Music as Bard 5 at the first level.
Sublime Chord (Complete Arcane)

Bardic Music
Arcane Spells as Sorcerer 9, casting level 18
BAB +15
Wear light armor when casting with no ASF
Take Able Learner (Races of Destiny) to keep a snazzy skill list.
 

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The Vigilant from the first Relics and Rituals book is very much a Super Ranger, although it desperately needs a 3.5 update.

In the Player's Guide to Wizards, Sorcerers and Bards (also Scarred Lands) there is a Super Sorcerer PrC, but I can't recall the name. It was very impressive, with I think PrC level in bonus "spell levels" only to offset Metamagic level increases.
 



victorysaber said:
There are several prestige classes that are "super" or "souped up" versions of normal classes. Of course it can be argued that they are not really "super" versions of normal classes since they don't give all the abilities of the originating class, but that's not what I'm trying to debate here. I've listed what (I think) are the prestige classes and their linked classes.

Archmage - Wizard
Assassin/Shadowdancer - Rogue
Weapon Master (Complete Warrior) - Fighter
Frenzied Berserker (Complete Warrior) - Barbarian
Horizon Walker - Ranger
Hierophant - Cleric
Psion Uncarnate (XPH) - Psion
Virtuoso (Complete Adenturer) - Bard

In the spirit of finding these "super normal classes" prestige classes, are there any other prestige classes that can fulfill the niches of the "super normal class" for the remaining classes? The remaining classes (including the XPH) are druid, monk, paladin, soulknife, psychic warrior, wilder, and sorcerer.

I'm more interested in finding if there are any classes that fulfill the role of "super wilder", "super sorcerer", and a "super" spontaneous divine caster (Dragonlance's Mystic) prestige class, because these are the classes that (I think) benefit the most from their casting/manifesting powers and they suffer from the "sorcerer should take any prestige class that gives spellcasting progression because that's the crux of their abilities" syndrome.

Also, if possible I'd like to know the source of the prestige class as well, if possible.

Thanks!

The figter is the one "true" class with versatility - not to get into the details of that - thus there are no prestige classes that are super versions of it. After all a fighter can be an expert at ranged weapons, pole arms, one weapon, charging/powerattack, combat expertise...the list is endless. The other core classes have a core theme to them and set abilities they gain.

But to reiterate others - Prestige Classes just take oen facet of a core class and focus on it. An "Order of the Bow Initiate" (CW) is an expert at the ranged aspect of warfare - not the rest of it. A "Knight Protector" (also CW) exlemplifies the character concept of knighthood and such; helping others etc - not the rest of the mechanical and conceptual portions of the fighter - or paladin class for that matter. A Cavalier (again CW) specializes in mounted combat...nothing else. An Assasin focuses on the "sneak attack" sort of abilites; but a rouge can do more than that; they can scout well, open locks and all that.
 


Amusingly enough, that is not true by the RAW. The effects of the Righteous Wrath feat apply to rage, not to frenzy, which is a separate ability. What the designers intended is a different matter.
 


Spirit of the Law > Letter of the Law...

ruleslawyer said:
Amusingly enough, that is not true by the RAW. The effects of the Righteous Wrath feat apply to rage, not to frenzy, which is a separate ability. What the designers intended is a different matter.

For those of you who care only if something is right by RAW, this combo doesn't work. I can't dispute that. However, I for one don't give a flying... um... pie. :P

As all of the Rage-based feats in the CW mention that they work with Frenzy... I've always assumed that Rage-based feats from other sources did too. Perhaps this would be a "House Rule". Just another case of RAW kicking the spirit of the law in the teeth.

RAW is a crutch. Period.
 

Drowbane said:
For those of you who care only if something is right by RAW, this combo doesn't work. I can't dispute that. However, I for one don't give a flying... um... pie. :P

As all of the Rage-based feats in the CW mention that they work with Frenzy... I've always assumed that Rage-based feats from other sources did too. Perhaps this would be a "House Rule". Just another case of RAW kicking the spirit of the law in the teeth.

RAW is a crutch. Period.

*shrug* Seeing as how it takes away the only flaw of the prestige class (which certainly seemed like a balancing factor to me, at least by the spirit of the rules.), I'll happily keep my Frenzied Berserkers, well, Frenzied.
 

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