Razor claw shifters

One of my friends works at my FLGS so he has seen the books, and he told me something I wwant to confirm...

Razor claw shifters Don't have CLAWS?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

is this a mistake? Is a Nat attack to powerful? I thought the point of exception based desgin was to make thing more uniqe not less?

Is this PC and Monster stat or just one of them missing it?
 

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GMforPowergamers said:
One of my friends works at my FLGS so he has seen the books, and he told me something I wwant to confirm...

Razor claw shifters Don't have CLAWS?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

is this a mistake? Is a Nat attack to powerful? I thought the point of exception based desgin was to make thing more uniqe not less?

Is this PC and Monster stat or just one of them missing it?

Both are missing it. I thought it was strange too. :/
 


Mort_Q said:
I'm guessing we'll not see the real Eberron shifters until either a web enhancement or the 4e ECS.
Probably.

Maybe natural attacks are actually to weak. They lack any proficiency bonus. Without damage types, the easiest way to handle claw and bite attacks might be just using unarmed strikes, until WotC introduces the "Claws" feat and allows you to make Claw attacks with a +2 proficiency bonus at heightened damage.
 



I'm actually more satisfied with the shifting abilities. The Claws and Teeth were, honestly, a joke. "Deal as much damage as a dagger, woo!"

Though the 4e longtooth should've been called "Beasthide".
 


MindWanderer said:
I'm surprised people are more upset that the shifters lack natural weapons than the fact that warforged can (and should) wear armor.

Best change they've made as far as the pseudo-Eberron races go. Forcing every warforged warrior-type to burn a feat on Adamantine Plating at 1st-level would be obnoxious and dumb, especially given that living construct traits aren't as uber as they were in 3.5. Obviously a warforged's purchased armor should be described as an integrated part of their body, but moving armor to equipment makes far more sense.
 
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MindWanderer said:
I'm surprised people are more upset that the shifters lack natural weapons than the fact that warforged can (and should) wear armor.
I'm fairly disappointed that WF didn't keep any real immunities. Or gain any resistances.
 

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