Repulsive Armor vs Warding Blades

[DarkLord Of DForce]

No worries, we did - your group isn't playing by RAW (on either power), but is playing in a consistent manner. RAW is probably screwed up for Warding Blade so you've got a pretty good chance of playing by RAI on it, but you're flat out upgrading Repulsion Armor, which is probably unnecessary but not going to break anything.

So, seriously, ignore the thread, keep playing and enjoying the game.

Warding Blade will hopefully be errata-ed at some point.

I don't see how we're upgrading RA. I don't see a need for errata on Warding Blade. Perhaps some rewording, to make it clearer? That might help a lot.

I really don't want to re-open this whole message thread again - I agree with everyone's take on OAs - no argument. I respectfully disagree with anyone who says Warding Blade requires reach. I also respectfully disagree with anyone who says that RA doesn't work exactly as worded - it pushes 1 opponent who moves into an adjacent square, back 1 square, once per round.

WOTC says we're doing it correctly, and as I already mentioned, that's good enough for us.



Thanks all.

 

[keterys]

that's good enough for us.

That's the actually important part.

 

[DracoSuave]

Please go up and read the replies from WOTC that I posted, if you've not already. According to them, Warding Blade grants the opportunity action, thus its coming from a power, not from the movement, like a typical OA.

Yes, I understand that it's an opportunity action. And therefore interrupts.

And interrupts work one of two ways.

Either:

A) They occur before the action they interrupt (not counting movement).
B) They occur before the singular square of movement they interrupt.

One, or the other.

All interrupting actions, be they opportunity attacks, opportunity actions, or immediate interrupts, follow those rules unless a specific exception is given.

Warding Blades triggers an opportunity action from either moving adjacent (Therefore it works at B) or from a hit or miss (Therefore it works at A).

In the case of B, it takes place before the square of movement, as all interrupting actions must. The fact that it is an opportunity action doesn't change that one single solitary bit, as 'opportunity attack' isn't a part of the discussion. The power interrupts, and therefore behaves like all interrupting actions do.

But, that's okay, the real meat of the power, the actual part that you pay attention to is the part that triggers on a hit or miss.

This is a Retribution Avenger's power, and Retribution powers work by punishing a team of monsters who attack the Avenger. That's the big part of it, the part that makes it a Retribution power. The other part is handy if you happen to have a reach weapon, but it's not the point of the power at all.