SCION: HERO - Discussion

[Tokiwong]

Sounds like a good start she may know Hirashi Toda already depending on her background.

She has alot of Epic Stats, probably reduce those and use the points elsewhere being a brawler type, I would suggest Strength and Stamina staying. And then using XP to build up the other stuff, the sample characters only have 2 maybe three at most Epic stats.

 

[Shalimar]

Just her normal appearance in comparision to the Asian phenotype would make her stand out, add in the fact that she is appearance 4 and she really stands out. Even without any divine gifts she stood out pretty highly in the punk/criminal world due to her appearance and her propensity for not taking any crap.

Toki, Thor only gives 2 purveiws, Sky which she has the level 2 (meaning level 1 is redundant) and she can't take level 3 not that she'd want it. The only other boon I'm interested in I can't take yet since its a level 3. I'm also not really big on Giants blood and creating thralled animals.

I only put the dot in Epic Appearance since I didn't know where else to put it. Thor is a Physical deity, he only grants 2 purveiws so that naturally channels any scions into Epic stats. Thor isn't really even the worst in that Regard, his wife Sif only grants Fertility I believe, and fertility only works on plants so her scions have plants and social epic abilities and nothing else. On the other hand you have some gods granting 8 or 9 purveiws.

 

[Tokiwong]

Understood, but I would rather have only a few epic abilities at first, she would stand out regardless, but I don't see that as worthy of a point yet, since that really isn't her concept more so then a brawler, and from the sample guy in the book he only has two epic stats and all that. Let me look and see what else you can spend points on.

 

[Shalimar]

I'll drop the epic appearance since it isn't the focus of the character.

I would point out that Eric Donner, the Scion in the book isn't quite rules legal, but that other scions do have more in the realm of epic abilities. Eric's gun should cost 5(2 of which must be Bonus Points), but he only has 1 bonus point after spending 14 BPs on Legend 4.

I'd be fine with dropping the Epic Dexterity and Appearance, dropping my skills to 3, and dropping my strength to 3 to free up 7 BP, and go legend 4 with the Epic Attributes points going into Epic Strength 3 + Epic Stamina 3 + Epic Dex 1. Originally she was built as Legend 4 with Eye of The Storm and a 3 in each of the Epic Physicals, but I dropped her down to diversify a bit, but I was having a hard time of coming up with ways to spend all 10 boon/epics since the boons I'm interested in are generally level 3, and you don't need to buy the level 2 before you get the level 3.

 

[Tokiwong]

I'll drop the epic appearance since it isn't the focus of the character.

I would point out that Eric Donner, the Scion in the book isn't quite rules legal, but that other scions do have more in the realm of epic abilities. Eric's gun should cost 5(2 of which must be Bonus Points), but he only has 1 bonus point after spending 14 BPs on Legend 4.

I'd be fine with dropping the Epic Dexterity and Appearance, dropping my skills to 3, and dropping my strength to 3 to free up 7 BP, and go legend 4 with the Epic Attributes points going into Epic Strength 3 + Epic Stamina 3 + Epic Dex 1. Originally she was built as Legend 4 with Eye of The Storm and a 3 in each of the Epic Physicals, but I dropped her down to diversify a bit, but I was having a hard time of coming up with ways to spend all 10 boon/epics since the boons I'm interested in are generally level 3, and you don't need to buy the level 2 before you get the level 3.

I looked at three sample characters and they only had 2 epic attributes, so I wager two is a good starting point for any Scion, just starting out.

Not too over the top.

And even if you don't like the boons, they may add some dimension to her character, even if they are not mechanically an advantage in the game.

 

[Shalimar]

The sky one boon is jump further, but spend a Legend to do it. She can already jump far thanks to her Mighty Bound Knack at no cost, and she has the Level 2 boon which lets her fly for the entire scene by spending legend + willpower. I'll pass on that one, I guess I have to rejigger my bonus points to pick up more purviews. She isn't a team player so the guardian purview except for the level 3 don't fit her personality, meaning I have to pick up non-Thor purviews.

 

[Tokiwong]

The sky one boon is jump further, but spend a Legend to do it. She can already jump far thanks to her Mighty Bound Knack at no cost, and she has the Level 2 boon which lets her fly for the entire scene by spending legend + willpower. I'll pass on that one, I guess I have to rejigger my bonus points to pick up more purviews. She isn't a team player so the guardian purview except for the level 3 don't fit her personality, meaning I have to pick up non-Thor purviews.

Sounds like maybe you should look at another parent that has purviews that more fit her, lol.

I am also always leery of the not a team player aspect, what does that mean to her?

 

[Shalimar]

Sounds like maybe you should look at another parent that has purviews that more fit her, lol.

I am also always leery of the not a team player aspect, what does that mean to her?

Not all the gods are equal, most have 1-3 epic attributes and 1 or 2 purviews, and then you see gods with 4 or 5 Epics and 5 or 6 purviews. Thor is just one of those gods with only 2 purviews and 3 Epics. I like the Sky Purview, and the level 3 boon from Guardian, but not the level 1 or 2 boons. When the parent only has 2 purviews and is focused on epics, it shapes the scion towards epics. It just seems like some of the gods were stuck in as after thoughts. Thor is cool for story reasons, he is the most well known Aesir God, and he does have good favored skills, but his Purviews could use a bit of a boost, same with his wife Sif.

The guardian purview is about being able to track someone you put under your protection, and eventually creating wards. The wards are cool and all, but the first two boons make the character specifically focused on protecting others, as opposed to stepping in just when needed. She isn't against working with others or doing the right thing, but Guardian 1 and 2 mean that the character's focus is being a protector. Its like being a Knight vs being a fighter. Kendal is a fighter, she isn't sir Gallahad.

 

[Tokiwong]

I think you are taking too narrow a view on the Guardian boons.

One allows Kendal to know if something that is important to her is in danger, she could use that on a vehicle, on her home, or even just her phone? The second allows her to do the same with a person. I don't see why she would not want to have that, she does not have to use it to actually defend anyone like some knight but just know when something bad is happening to her stuff or the things she claims.

A fighter fights for dominance, but dominance is nothing if someone breaks the stuff or takes the things you fought for in the first place.

 

[Shalimar]

Now that I have access to my book again, of the sample characters, the average number of Epic Attributes is 4, (25/6 = 4.25) 5+4+2+6+2+4. If she just went with Str/Dex/Sta she'd be under the curve.

Bear in mind that boons are much more expensive then epic attributes. With an epic attribute 1 pt is 1 pt, with a boon you have to spend a point of birthright and a pt of boon (or 2). The characters are encourged by the book (it points out that epics are the best deal at creation and that you can pick up boons later, and even pick them up out of order if you want)