She-Hulk: Attorney at Law trailer

[Argyle King]

I hadn't realized that those things had happened to Bruce regularly for all of his teen and adult life, so that by the time he became The Hulk he already had learned to deal with that anger.

EDIT: Reading further on, I see some others have addressed this, and you've basically blown off what woman go through to compare to a large trauma. Can you picture every single day of your life being worried about getting violated if you are out after dark? At being afraid to take a drink at a party from someone or pick up your drink if you put it down for a moment because you are afraid it's been roofied? People could go on and on, but it really comes across as the "guy who has no idea what it is like therefore dismissing it as not all that bad".

Early trauma, fear, and etc aren't limited to one set of genitalia.

While I would agree that there are challenges which tend to face some portions of the population more than others, I would posit that's it's comparably dismissive to say that things like PTSD (from constant war and conflict); being viewed by society as a monster; and so-forth aren't difficult challenges.

In some ways, the fact that Jen is so easily accepted while Bruce's struggles are swept aside as unimportant highlights the challenges of seeking mental health help as a male. Admitting having challenges or admitting that you need help with mental or emotional trauma tends to be ridiculed or brushed aside as something of a joke.

 

[Blue]

Early trauma, fear, and etc aren't limited to one set of genitalia.

Never said they were. I did say that they are more of a constant issue for women. Please actually address what I wrote instead of setting up a strawman, since I never said men didn't have any early trauma or fear.

While I would agree that there are challenges which tend to face some portions of the population more than others, I would posit that's it's comparably dismissive to say that things like PTSD (from constant war and conflict); being viewed by society as a monster; and so-forth aren't difficult challenges.

Again, please actually read what I wrote. Did Bruce have the PTSD from war and conflict before becoming the Hulk? We are talking about Jen's experiences pre-Hulk compared to Bruce's experiences pre-Hulk.

In some ways, the fact that Jen is so easily accepted while Bruce's struggles are swept aside as unimportant highlights the challenges of seeking mental health help as a male. Admitting having challenges or admitting that you need help with mental or emotional trauma tends to be ridiculed or brushed aside as something of a joke.

Sure, I'll go along with this. It's a valuable PSA. And Bruce had a 15 year year journey back to mental health - a good thing.

 

[MGibster]

I don't mind making a commentary on this because it was introduced in the show. So let Uncle MGibster tell you a little story where my attitude was pretty crummy. I used to handle parking at work, and one of the biggest bones of contention I had with employees was with assigning them parking spots. The issue was that we had too many employees and not enough spaces close to the building, so I would have to assign a lot of people to spaces that were about two blocks away from where they work. I would frequently receive calls from women, particularly those who showed up to work prior to sunrise, asking for a spot closer to the building because they felt unsafe walking by themselves. Unfortuantely there was little I could do since I couldn't conjure up more parking spaces, but I was sympathetic at least and would assign them closwer spots as they became available.

One day, a male employee contacted me and told me he felt unsafe walking to the building from his parking space in the week hours of the warning. You know what immediately went through my head? "Just bring your balls with you and walk, you'll be fine." While I told him the same thing I told women employees, there was zero empathy in my heart and I thought less of him as a man for voicing his fear. It wasn't until a few weeks later that I re-examined my attitude and came to the conclusion that it was crummy. I suppose it was an example of what they call toxic masculinity rearing its ugly head.

Regardless of statistics, I do think women are encouraged to be fearful of many situations whereas men are actively discouraged (punished) for voicing any fears they might have. I don't mind Jennifer Walters bringing that up as maybe a reason why she's in control when turning into She-Hulk. Quite frankly, I can't remember if they ever explained why Jennifer was in control in the comic either. It's been a while.

 

[Staffan]

Quite frankly, I can't remember if they ever explained why Jennifer was in control in the comic either. It's been a while.

In the comics, she gained control over her transformations when Morbius cured her of a blood disease of some sort. Since then, her level of control has fluctuated somewhat, but as far as there is such a thing, her default state has either been one where she is in control or where she's permanently She-Hulk.

In the comics (at least from time to time), She-Hulk has a distinct persona from Jennifer Walters, although the difference is not as big as the Hulk's traditionally is. She-Hulk is less inhibited and more confident. I would not be surprised if there were comics that delved into the psychology of that.

 

[Tonguez]

In the comics, she gained control over her transformations when Morbius cured her of a blood disease of some sort. Since then, her level of control has fluctuated somewhat, but as far as there is such a thing, her default state has either been one where she is in control or where she's permanently She-Hulk.

In the comics (at least from time to time), She-Hulk has a distinct persona from Jennifer Walters, although the difference is not as big as the Hulk's traditionally is. She-Hulk is less inhibited and more confident. I would not be surprised if there were comics that delved into the psychology of that.

Not so much a distinct personality but an increase in her self confidence which is touched on in the show lightly (comics version was more dramatic since original Jen was a meek and shy girl). She haS gone savage a couple of times due to meddling by aliens but mostly stays in control of her faculties. One of her writers tried to bulk her up once, but fans hated it and she soon reverted to sexy green Amazon form

 

[Umbran]

Never said they were. I did say that they are more of a constant issue for women. Please actually address what I wrote instead of setting up a strawman, since I never said men didn't have any early trauma or fear.

So, how about we reframe this:

"Please actually address what I wrote, instead of setting up a stawman...," is accusative, and while it doesn't explicitly say it, likely implies it as an intentional act to many readers.

Next time, maybe try, "I'm not quite sure how you got that. While yes, I didn't explicitly mention men's problems, that doesn't imply they don't exist, just that I wasn't addressing them in that moment..."

"I think you may have missed my point," is a lot different in flavor than the accusation of setting up strawman

 

[Irlo]

I'm pretty jaded and normally go into super-hero, fantasy, and sci-fi shows with low expectations, but I was actually excited for She-Hulk based on the one trailer that I saw. Now I'm three episodes in and I remember why I don't get my hopes up. The show is okay, and I see what they're going for, but the funny stuff doesn't often exceed mildly amusing. I was hoping for something wittier. I'll watch the rest of the series. I like Maslany's performance well enough and I can squint through the CGI, but the scripts are a let-down.

 

[Argyle King]

Never said they were. I did say that they are more of a constant issue for women. Please actually address what I wrote instead of setting up a strawman, since I never said men didn't have any early trauma or fear.


Again, please actually read what I wrote. Did Bruce have the PTSD from war and conflict before becoming the Hulk? We are talking about Jen's experiences pre-Hulk compared to Bruce's experiences pre-Hulk.

I'm aware you didn't claim that. I didn't say that you did.

That's hard to say. The MCU hasn't addressed very much of Bruce's life. It could be that Bruce had a great life; it could be that he had early traumatic experiences to cause a personality disorder (which was later accentuated by gaining powers, much like Moon Knight).

I think it's interesting that the show is highlighting a lot of cultural hypocrisy:

"...being catcalled has caused me to endure years of rage..." but "how about the donk on Captain America..."

"...I'll only date someone if they're hot, successful, and everything I want..." but "I'll also be upset if they don't accept the real me exactly as I am."

It's done for comedic effect (and I do find that the jokes are good,) but, like a lot of comedy, it lands because it has some basis in truth.

 

[Tonguez]

Ep 5 was quick and seemed largely filler, Shrek reference and stuff

 

[John R Davis]

Yeah I didn't feel for Ep5. Maybe not the demographic for such a storyline.
Whose was the helmet in the shop at the end?