W'rkncacnter
Hero
they don't exist in the system.
that's literally the only reason you need to not include something in an SRD.
D&D (2024) Should 2014 Half Elves and Half Orcs be added to the 2025 SRD?
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that's literally the only reason you need to not include something in an SRD.
Why don't they exist in the system if they existed before?
They don't to exist in the system. However the reasons given for their removal from the set and made not exist are flimsy.
W'rkncacnter
Hero
i dunno. ask wotc.
sure, i agree with that. that doesn't mean things that don't exist in the system should be in the srd.
I agree
My point is that people are justifying flimsy and weak reasoning that if it happened to dwarf or elf, they wouldn't accept.
MoonSong
Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
A purely optional add-on doesn't have lore attached to it, and it is way less visible than having one or two accepted options at the "species" level. Optional add-ons don't get NPCs in modules, and they don't show up in random splash art either. It is just completely not the right tool for the need, which is completely about lore and visibility. (How many custom race characters have appeared anywhere post-Tasha?)
Look, I'm not against some module for custom mix/mix origin, but the want for it was weaponized to take away what worked fairly well. And by itself it only makes something that has been marginalized even more marginal.
Remathilis
Legend
The SRD doesn't include much of the PHB.
Go look at the 5.1 SRD. It's missing Drow, wood elf, mountain dwarf, forest gnome, stout halfling, all subclasses but berserker, lore bard, life domain, land druid, champion, open hand monk, devotion paladin, Hunter, thief, draconic sorcerer, fiend warlock, and evoker. It's also missing every background but Acolyte and every feat but grappler. It's also missing 1/3rd of all the spells, 70% of the magic items, and the vast majority of the Monster Manual.
The half-elf, which isn't even in the PHB, isn't any more important than the eldritch knight, the drow elf, or the soldier background.
Remathilis
Legend
Sure they do. Goliaths played a role in Icewind Dale, tabaxi are in Tomb of Annihilation.
And the fight is lost. The PHB is out. Even if the half elf is put in the next book, it's as "visible " as the triton or the firbolg. Might as well get a system that allows for true mixed heritage rather than two officially sanctioned pairings.
Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
The fact that the information already exists in a 5e SRD?
Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
I will note that the aforementioned Level Up mixed heritage system is available through that 5e game's freely accessible SRD.
That's not answering the question.
Everything doesn't belong in the SRD.
Again
What are the good reasons to not include the half elf and half orc under new names in the SRD and thus also the PHB?
There is a good reason why the SRD didn't have the eldritch knight. The SRD had the champion which displayed the mechanical structure and baseline of what a fighter subclass would be.
There is a good reason why the SRD didn't include the wood elf. the SRD had the high elf which displayed the mechanical structure and baseline of what an elf sub race would be.
The half elf and/or the half orc would display the mechanical structure and baseline of what a mixed species would be.
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