D&D 5E Should martial characters be mundane or supernatural?

[doctorbadwolf]

Absolutely. You buy a small piece of something, instead of a larger packaged release. Absolutely its microtransactions.

Only in the most pedantic possible sense.

We have a model for this already, in dndbeyond, where if you buy the magic items from Tasha’s and then later decide to purchase the whole book, the book price is discounted by an amount equal to what you spent on parts of the book.

 

[Scribe]

Only in the most pedantic possible sense.

We have a model for this already, in dndbeyond, where if you buy the magic items from Tasha’s and then later decide to purchase the whole book, the book price is discounted by an amount equal to what you spent on parts of the book.

I'm not trying to be pedantic. Its quite literally the road to microtransactions.

Am I wrong?

 

[ECMO3]

I would bet good money that if you polled all D&D players and asked if they wanted a cool new class, the majority would say yes.

I do not think this is true.

 

[Minigiant]

I do not think this is true.

WOTC polled the community and WOTC wanted to make a psion/mystic class.

The community just could not agree on what kind of psion/mystic.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I'm not trying to be pedantic. Its quite literally the road to microtransactions.

Am I wrong?

Yes, tbh. It’s essentially a slipery slope argunent. DDB’s piecemeal purchasing simply lowers the entry cost for players, it doesn’t bait anyone into spending more money than they would just buying the books.

 

[Oofta]

It has a negative effect on other forms of media/entertainment, and I have no reason to believe it wont have a negative impact on D&D as well.

So-called microtransactions in D&D don't really exist as far as I'm concerned, at least not on the level of video games. In video games an individual can get significant benefits from purchasing bits and pieces. In D&D? No one can pur,chase XP to level up faster unless of course buying pizza is a good bribe for the DM. In every case I've seen it's one person is buying and sharing with the group, so individuals are not getting extra features or access to magic. Even if someone is buying a feature and not sharing, they've always been able to do that just by purchasing an entire book and not sharing. The DM has always had last say on what's allowed.

This has come up before. People float "microtransactions" as if it's some boogey man that will inevitably destroy the game, never explaining how that could actually happen. So, other that scary stories about things going bump in the video game, explain how paying less for content I want to use is a bad thing and I'll change my tune.

 

[Oofta]

I would bet good money that if you polled all D&D players and asked if they wanted a cool new class, the majority would say yes.

That wasn't the case when they did surveys after floating the idea in UA articles.

 

[Minigiant]

That wasn't the case when they did surveys after floating the idea in UA articles.

Again incorrect. It is the case.

WOTC added the artificer and tried to add the mystic.
WOTC wants new classes to be setting based. The issue literally is the only setting they produced need no new classes except one since they only produced old school settings and MTG settings.

 

[Scribe]

Yes, tbh. It’s essentially a slipery slope argunent. DDB’s piecemeal purchasing simply lowers the entry cost for players, it doesn’t bait anyone into spending more money than they would just buying the books.

I find the counter of a slippery slope being less and less convincing as the years roll by.

I can picture a time where Wizards doesnt release everything in books (actually they already dont) and instead drive traffic to Beyond. I can further picture a time where they release content that is player facing, that I would want, that is only available via microtransction.

Or at least, I can see them trying, because they are run by an executive level that would love that.

I just dont think thats a good direction, and offering small bits of content individually is absolutely a microtransaction.

That said, I'm not interested in a long pedantic back and forth, its too early, been too long a month, and I need an energy drink.

 

[Maxperson]

That wasn't the case when they did surveys after floating the idea in UA articles.

They've never surveyed the vast majority of players. The ones who take their UA surveys are the self-selected folks who go online to argue rules and stuff. They aren't the average Joe Player.

Also, do you have a link to where they said that? I can't recall hearing that from them.